Hondata Kpro
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From: Selma, TX
Originally Posted by ThatPreludeGuy,Jan 21 2008, 09:48 PM
If you dont mind what was the rough cost of swap, install, and tune? I've thought about doing this using Jeff Evans to tune it just so I know my car is running the best it can AND be OBD-II compliant. I was figuring somewhere around $2000-2200, sound right?
EDIT: WOW, its looking more like $3k (all parts and tune), if I spent that much I'd want to up the boost too so that's not happening.
EDIT: WOW, its looking more like $3k (all parts and tune), if I spent that much I'd want to up the boost too so that's not happening.
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From: Perry, Ohio
Originally Posted by JustinC,Jan 21 2008, 11:34 PM
Its 1795 plus 350 in parts. The sensors are easy to swap. Worst part is changing the crank sprocket sensor. I will be doing a DIY if I have time whenever I do mine so that people feel more comfortable with it.
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From: tampa florida
problem with k-pro is it is not a real time tuning - you have to upload every change you make and the car almost stalls (street tuning is a bitch), if using a ecu from a rsx - what do they do about the intake cam timing maps?
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^ There is no cam timing on our cars so it is really not an issue.
The install is really not that bad either.
You have to use the cam sensors and crank sensor from the +'06 along with the corresponding trigger wheels.
For the cam sensors, this means you also need to use the valve cover that fits the +'06 sensors. This valve cover also uses a newer style PCV. You remove the cams and change the trigger wheels on both cams.
There is a trigger wheel on the crank that also needs to be changed along with the corresponding sensor. For this trigger wheel you remove the timing chain cover. That's it. It might seem a bit laborious, but it really is not that bad at all.
The install is really not that bad either.
You have to use the cam sensors and crank sensor from the +'06 along with the corresponding trigger wheels.
For the cam sensors, this means you also need to use the valve cover that fits the +'06 sensors. This valve cover also uses a newer style PCV. You remove the cams and change the trigger wheels on both cams.
There is a trigger wheel on the crank that also needs to be changed along with the corresponding sensor. For this trigger wheel you remove the timing chain cover. That's it. It might seem a bit laborious, but it really is not that bad at all.
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this is exactly what I wanted! As I said earlier just basically wanted to open up the topic for discussion. Thumbs up to everyone that added their knowledge. All the questions looked like they have been answered. I just ordered my wideband so I will definetly add once I figure it all out. as stated earlier the Kpro is retailing at 1795 + 350(06 parts) and expect to pay bout 8 hours of labor anywhere from $300-$600 dollars is what I have been quoted. The prices are all on the high end. Most shops will cut you a little break here and there, For those of you that are serious I could probably talk to shawn and kevin 2 setup a s2ki discount. I got it done at epic because he was the one that pro-typed the kpro for the s2k with hondata... I can also say I've been on a budget before and understand the kpro can be a bit pricey but, in my opinion you cant put a price on something as vital as engine management. Pm if you guys need any help in finding the parts I know it took me a while 2 find shops that would touch the motor.
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From: San Antonio,TX
Originally Posted by JustinC,Jan 22 2008, 07:24 AM
This is correct, b/c the s2000 has a narrowband sensor stock, hondata is not supporting wideband operation. The only way to get wideband logging is to use an aftermarket wideband like PLX and feed the analogue input into the ELD input on the ECU and then when you datalog it will use that wideband and continue to use the narrowband for normal driving.
The only way to use the leancut and boostcut feature is to use a stock wideband, which hondata does not support, but I have talked to a guy that has put in his own before and hondat would not help him and I know another guy who is working on this project with me. If I get it work, I may possibly post up the results and/or procedure if I get it going.
The only way to use the leancut and boostcut feature is to use a stock wideband, which hondata does not support, but I have talked to a guy that has put in his own before and hondat would not help him and I know another guy who is working on this project with me. If I get it work, I may possibly post up the results and/or procedure if I get it going.
I like to see how it adapts with a supercharger....
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My AEM EMS fits in the stock location
My AEM EMS starts just like stock
My AEM EMS shows Water temps
My AEM EMS was only 1000.00
My AEM EMS can use real time tuning.
Not 2000.
Its all in the tune.
Sorry just had to post this becase I am anti Hondata after what they pulled with the lawsuit of pgmfi.org
My AEM EMS starts just like stock
My AEM EMS shows Water temps
My AEM EMS was only 1000.00
My AEM EMS can use real time tuning.
Not 2000.
Its all in the tune.
Sorry just had to post this becase I am anti Hondata after what they pulled with the lawsuit of pgmfi.org
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My AEM EMS fits in the stock location
My AEM EMS starts just like stock
My AEM EMS shows Water temps
My AEM EMS was only 1000.00
My AEM EMS can use real time tuning.
Not 2000.
Its all in the tune.
Sorry just had to post this becase I am anti Hondata after what they pulled with the lawsuit of pgmfi.org
My AEM EMS starts just like stock
My AEM EMS shows Water temps
My AEM EMS was only 1000.00
My AEM EMS can use real time tuning.
Not 2000.
Its all in the tune.
Sorry just had to post this becase I am anti Hondata after what they pulled with the lawsuit of pgmfi.org