Ideas on this setup?
I am installing a Vortech kit real soon with an aftercooler. How well Do you think a setup having a CAI going in to the inlet on the SC. The outlet going thru a FMI and into the Aftercooler. The aftercooler then still going thru the water radiator and then going thru the spearco front mount. I would then mount the FMI's in the V like pattern many JDM drft cars have. Would this be a waste of money to do all of this or do you Think it would benifet me to have so many cooling parts. I figured it wouldn't cost more then around $750 to all of this and I have found an intercooler to be able to fit all this and some. So the engine bay will still look clean and not clutered
sounds like a waste to me personally... plus with the radiator, FMIC, positioning of the vortech unit in the engine bay, and aftercooler, you wouldn't have the space to do a proper v-mount config.
Originally Posted by Spoonie,Mar 1 2006, 10:16 PM
Then would I benefit more from a front mount or getting the Spearco aftercooler radiator?
1. The cold air intake won't provide any noticeably gains. You may be providing air to the system that is a few degrees colder, but you are also extending the inlet tract and losing pressure in the process. Waste of time and money. Any possible gains to be had with a CAI with an N/A engine are reduced when you are considering FI. That air is going to heat right back up when you compress it. You need to focus on getting the highest pressure air to the compressor inlet. This means the least restriction upstream.
2. The air temperature rises as it is compressed and the aftercooler is designed to reduce the air temps without reducing the air pressure (too much that is). The stock kit's aftercooler does a good job of this already. Each aftercooler system you run the air through will reduce the air pressure. You will reach a certain point when the aftercooling becomes very inefficient, providing all pressure drop and no temperature reduction. Look how huge the FMIC option for the supercharger kit is. It's massive compared to the air-water stock option. It can't touch that unit in terms of efficiency.
3. You want to cool the aftercooler water twice? I'm not sure this is going to help the situation at all. The stock aftercooler works very well in terms of cooling the intake air and dissipating the heat through the fluid into the water radiator.
4. To further explain points 2 and 3: When you are dealing with heat exchangers, in this case two cross-flow units, the greater the differential between the hot side inlet temperature and the cold side inlet temperature, the more heat that will be transfered into the cold side. If you run the hotside outlet into another exhanger with a similar coldside inlet temperature as the first exchanger, the amount of heat passed into the coldside will be dramatically less the second time around. However, the pressure drop across the system will remain the same. Keep doing this, and eventually you will have no heat transfer and all pressure drop.
Feel free to do whatever you want to your car, but I wouldn't go messing around with my car unless I knew exactly how that particular system works. Both the Comptech and Vortech kits are engineered to be safe and functional. There are more effective ways to spend your money...
Originally Posted by Spoonie,Mar 1 2006, 11:57 PM
Well thank you for the elaborate explanation. So there are no gains in the spearco radiator?
It sure looks good though.
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the only time you would see gains from a FMAC like the tech 2, would be if you were road racing, or on long drives... otherwise it's of no real value other than aesthetics... tech 2 made it when they were having a hand at road racing and time attack...
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