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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 08:05 AM
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just get a c02 or n02 intercooler sprayer
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 08:18 AM
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That's interesting about the liquid nitrogen. Was safety the reason he was denied a pass. I'm a bit ignorant of the dragstrip regulations. I do know as soon as hot air were to hit the liquid N2, the pressure in those lines (if it was in a some type of closed system) would increase dramaticly. If you were to pour some onto your hand, it would "bounce" off. Liquid N2 vaporizes so fast it forms a gas layer on ambient temp surfaces and the rest flows over that gas layer.

Once again, I'm with wadzii. Man you are packed with pearls of wisdom. Wish you were local to me or within a state.
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by wadzii
some land speed guys experimented with co2 and nitrogen cooling coils in the intake years ago, guess what... Not a single one still uses it.

The air flows through so fast that it doesnt really cool the air as much as you'd think.

Be careful cooling fuel that much (in the case of cooling meth) when fuel is very cold it wont atomize. The hotter the fuel is the better it works.

Its really a simple issue. If you have too much heat the get a bigger intercooler or more importantly turn the boost down. If the turbo is running where its efficient then it wont heat the air that much anyway.
and thats exactly what happens 90% of the time. people put a huge turbo on their car and then overlook the intercooler...perfect recipe for hot air, less power, and then questions arise about why they didnt make as much.

yes, he was denied a pass due to the possibility of an explosion, but if you think about it, Ingersoll was way ahead of his time with some of the things he showed up with in the 80's
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bruthaboost
If you wanted cheap uber cold temps, just dump some dry ice into your 100% methanol. I don't recommend this as methanol is extremely volatile
Actually it’s not volatile, that why it’s used in high hp situations, it runs colder and lowers the detonation threshold. Its derivative of alcohol, has much the same burning characteristics. Gasoline is much more volatile, especially lower OCT. Nitrous is extremely volatile.
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
Originally Posted by bruthaboost' timestamp='1381326741' post='22818721
If you wanted cheap uber cold temps, just dump some dry ice into your 100% methanol. I don't recommend this as methanol is extremely volatile
Actually it’s not volatile, that why it’s used in high hp situations, it runs colder and lowers the detonation threshold. Its derivative of alcohol, has much the same burning characteristics. Gasoline is much more volatile, especially lower OCT. Nitrous is extremely volatile.
Actually it IS volatile. Methanol is not a derivative of alcohol. Strictly speaking it IS an alcohol by definition; CH3OH. If by alcohol you mean ethanol, I'm not sure I'd describe methanol as its derivative. Ethanol is methanol with another CH3 attached. Methanol is highly volatile as evidenced by it's vapor pressure or qualitatively, it evaporates quite readily at room temp. You can test it against isopropyl alcohol. Pour the two outside and watch which one goes away faster. The reason volatility is so dangerous is we can't see vapors that are flammable. Additionally, methanol is more volatile than gasoline. I was trying to find comparable vapor pressures but it appears the pressures aren't measured identically. A qualitative way to look at it is which would evaporate first. Methanol dries up faster. The only thing that helps it stay around is the -OH at its only carbon. As the molecules get bigger, the boiling point, goes higher (vapor pressure lower) and gasoline is a big ol mixture of relatively big hydrocarbons.

Now gasoline has more energy, but energy and volatility aren't necessarily correlated especially when in regards to energy released from bonds due to combustion.

Apologies if this came off as cpt. pedantic.
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 11:14 AM
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If how flammable 100% methanol is scares you! run 50/50 meth.. There is a company called boost juice that sells it online, it doesn't get as cold as 100% meth.. And it isn't as good as 100% meth but it's not flammable..
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