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Kings vs pfab vs full blown
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Joined: Sep 2005
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From: Denver, CO
As a customer of both full blown and pfab I would not buy from pfab any more. He is very brief and is not very helpful when it comes to customer service. When my pfab manifold cracked he wouldn't even offer a discount on a new replacement. Also when I asked where to buy the best manifold to turbo studs he was very vague and wasnt much help.
Full blown on the other hand has helped me with all of my questions even though I'm running a pfab setup. I've bought all my parts from him (head studs, TB, fuel pump, rad,diff mounts, vtex bolt etc) with nothing but great service.
Last but not least pfab didn't use a stainless steel turbo flange on my manifold. This is exactly where my manifold let go and the welder said this was because of trying to weld stainless to the crappy steel flange he used.
That's just my .02 cents
Full blown on the other hand has helped me with all of my questions even though I'm running a pfab setup. I've bought all my parts from him (head studs, TB, fuel pump, rad,diff mounts, vtex bolt etc) with nothing but great service.
Last but not least pfab didn't use a stainless steel turbo flange on my manifold. This is exactly where my manifold let go and the welder said this was because of trying to weld stainless to the crappy steel flange he used.
That's just my .02 cents
Ghettocrxsi is correct. Just about "all" manufactures use steel flanges for those specific reasons, check around..the best of the best out there will have a manifold crack from time to time.
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Joined: Apr 2010
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From: Gansevoort, NY
Yea, I would NEVER say Pang is short or unhelpful, hes always dealt with my questions as has helped me out when I needed it quite a bit, I have ordered a ton of stuff from LJ but I got my turbo setup from Pang for a few personal reasons, both shops do amazing work and I would never down talk eithers quality or customer service
to Lj and FB as well!
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These are pretty solid kits and companies; they also have a lot of flexibility to modify parts to accommodate your needs.
This thread is useless, at some point it is/was going to turn into a pissing match. There are plenty of other threads online to get information from.
Someone should consider locking this thread.
This thread is useless, at some point it is/was going to turn into a pissing match. There are plenty of other threads online to get information from.
Someone should consider locking this thread.
Joined: Mar 2005
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From: Centreville, Va
You'd also need a clutch. They don't use the oil drain bolt for the return line. Just drill/tap the cam chain cover just above the oil pan (you would need a longer return line that what is likely supplied with the kit; I'm sure FB/PFAB/Kings would provide you with one if you relay that you wish to have your return line at the cam chain cover).