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Old Mar 9, 2015 | 03:12 PM
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And what was the correction factor?
Sorry, no idea. I will try and get in touch with the tuner. It was in Houston and around 60 degrees F.
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Old Mar 9, 2015 | 08:52 PM
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Great numbers! Especially with stock cat in there!
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Old Mar 9, 2015 | 10:47 PM
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Congrats on the nice numbers. But running the stock cat with an FI set up is asking for trouble. It will eventually (sooner then later) melt down due to the added heat, and when that happens it will create an obstruction in your exhaust system, when that happens your motor cant expel the gasses and your EGT will go through the roof risking motor melt down. If you ever notice the car feeling really sluggish all sudden stop driving it and check the cat before you start scratching your head too long.
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Old Mar 10, 2015 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
Congrats on the nice numbers. But running the stock cat with an FI set up is asking for trouble. It will eventually (sooner then later) melt down due to the added heat, and when that happens it will create an obstruction in your exhaust system, when that happens your motor cant expel the gasses and your EGT will go through the roof risking motor melt down. If you ever notice the car feeling really sluggish all sudden stop driving it and check the cat before you start scratching your head too long.
Yikes, I've been running the stock cat on my TTS kit at 470whp - and stock exh throughout. I deterred from getting a Berks due to them failing - so I've read. What's the remedy without having to use a test pipe?
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Old Mar 10, 2015 | 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by s2kjn
Originally Posted by s2000Junky
Congrats on the nice numbers. But running the stock cat with an FI set up is asking for trouble. It will eventually (sooner then later) melt down due to the added heat, and when that happens it will create an obstruction in your exhaust system, when that happens your motor cant expel the gasses and your EGT will go through the roof risking motor melt down. If you ever notice the car feeling really sluggish all sudden stop driving it and check the cat before you start scratching your head too long.
Yikes, I've been running the stock cat on my TTS kit at 470whp - and stock exh throughout. I deterred from getting a Berks due to them failing - so I've read. What's the remedy without having to use a test pipe?
FI can exist with a catalytic converter e.g. M3/4, AMG GT, WRX/STI, EVO, etc. You just have to find an OEM quality ceramic cat. Supposedly, hytech offers an OEM quality ceramic unit. I haven't tried it so I can't endorse it. The Berks use a thin metal substrate core. They will fail quickly. Don't waste your money.

Heat and pressure work to degrade your catalytic converter. You can move it further from the header (and thus heat/pressure) to extend its longevity. This would require some custom exhaust work and it's not necessarily a permanent fix.

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Old Mar 10, 2015 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by s2kjn
Yikes, I've been running the stock cat on my TTS kit at 470whp - and stock exh throughout. I deterred from getting a Berks due to them failing - so I've read. What's the remedy without having to use a test pipe?
Since your running E85 you don't really need the cat anyway. Enjoy the corn smell and free up that exhaust!
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Old Mar 10, 2015 | 06:28 AM
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And what was the correction factor?
Sorry, no idea. I will try and get in touch with the tuner. It was in Houston and around 60 degrees F.
Yes, I'm curious. Dyno numbers can vary by as much as 30%, from one dyno to another on different days. So, the actual numbers don't have a lot of meaning unless you know the model of dyno and the correction factor applied. (Unless of course all you are after is knowing how much hp change there is with a single part change and you do it back to back).
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Originally Posted by s2kjn
Originally Posted by s2000Junky
Congrats on the nice numbers. But running the stock cat with an FI set up is asking for trouble. It will eventually (sooner then later) melt down due to the added heat, and when that happens it will create an obstruction in your exhaust system, when that happens your motor cant expel the gasses and your EGT will go through the roof risking motor melt down. If you ever notice the car feeling really sluggish all sudden stop driving it and check the cat before you start scratching your head too long.
Yikes, I've been running the stock cat on my TTS kit at 470whp - and stock exh throughout. I deterred from getting a Berks due to them failing - so I've read. What's the remedy without having to use a test pipe?
There isnt. They all eventually fail. All you can do is keep replacing the Cat or high flow cat and hope you catch it before you risk damaging the engine from the cat melt down. To me its not worth the risk, when a TP is cheaper and more effective and reliable. I respect the environmental/legal impacts however, sometimes there is no good way around that.
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Old Mar 10, 2015 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
Originally Posted by s2kjn' timestamp='1425986477' post='23534021
Originally Posted by s2000Junky
Congrats on the nice numbers. But running the stock cat with an FI set up is asking for trouble. It will eventually (sooner then later) melt down due to the added heat, and when that happens it will create an obstruction in your exhaust system, when that happens your motor cant expel the gasses and your EGT will go through the roof risking motor melt down. If you ever notice the car feeling really sluggish all sudden stop driving it and check the cat before you start scratching your head too long.
Yikes, I've been running the stock cat on my TTS kit at 470whp - and stock exh throughout. I deterred from getting a Berks due to them failing - so I've read. What's the remedy without having to use a test pipe?
There isnt. They all eventually fail. All you can do is keep replacing the Cat or high flow cat and hope you catch it before you risk damaging the engine from the cat melt down. To me its not worth the risk, when a TP is cheaper and more effective and reliable. I respect the environmental/legal impacts however, sometimes there is no good way around that.
So what do the high power OEM turbo/supercharged cars do?
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