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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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Ok here are the graphs with my turbo numbers from the matlab simulation that everyone has been talking about in s2k talk.

















Granted these are only simulations, but all things being equal these graphs can hopefully disprove the myth about gears be detremental and hi powered turbo cars can hopefully be put to rest.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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Interesting information. Not a huge difference though. I still prefer the higher top end speed. easy to notice your lag though.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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Simulations are one thing and real life is another,given perfect tarmac,grippy tires and all maybe shorter gears will manage to transfer all the power to the ground without too much spin but i dont think that shorter gears is better than stock on high power S2000. I would say shorter gears are fine and good up to 270-310whp. after that you would have problems getting a proper launch,or loosing time in changing gears too much,
i found out that with higher power you seem to hit the limiter at 9k pretty fast.

if any shorter gears are better if you are in a taller gear at lower speed and you go WOT and not to bother and change a gear. But than you get higher RPM on highway cruse.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 03:54 PM
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Yup, I'd also like to see a 4.56 and 4.77 comparison to the 4.10s in an AP2, b/c I know there's no way in hell the top speed in an AP2 with 4.56 or 4.77s is greater than 150.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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I think s2k's in the 500+whp range should probably go to a taller gear somewhere in the 3.9's. Just opinion though, sorry, back to the topic.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ChefJ,Oct 22 2007, 05:08 PM
Interesting information. Not a huge difference though. I still prefer the higher top end speed. easy to notice your lag though.
eh kinda, my actual dyno chart goes from about ~4.5k to redline, I had to guestimate the points below that.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by stena,Oct 22 2007, 05:57 PM
Simulations are one thing and real life is another,given perfect tarmac,grippy tires and all maybe shorter gears will manage to transfer all the power to the ground without too much spin but i dont think that shorter gears is better than stock on high power S2000. I would say shorter gears are fine and good up to 270-310whp. after that you would have problems getting a proper launch,or loosing time in changing gears too much,
i found out that with higher power you seem to hit the limiter at 9k pretty fast.

if any shorter gears are better if you are in a taller gear at lower speed and you go WOT and not to bother and change a gear. But than you get higher RPM on highway cruse.
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Well there is no way to factor in launching in either situtation, thats why these tests completly eliminate that from the situtation.

As for gear changing, the ENTIRE point of these charts are to show that DESPITE having to shift more, they still are quicker, so not sure where your going with that


All things given equal, gears are faster
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 04:44 PM
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yes they are.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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Very nice data.
Traction will be the limiter when it comes to high power and gearing.
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