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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 08:02 AM
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Although boostedf22c has amazing success with it I dont advise everyone push it to the fullest like him. I know he has a TON of drag racing experience and experience with working on cars. If you arent doing your stuff yourself and not 100% sure how everything works then I wouldnt recommend pushing the car as hard as he did. Im sure he would agree with me. He probably has every possible factor covered and took care of all precautions because its obvious he doesnt spare any expenses when he does a build and does it right.

A ton of evo guys have a lot of success with it. I am considering messing with it on my supra but I myself dont even know a ton about it to do so just yet.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 08:19 AM
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I don't think meth is going to cool down oil temps, just intake temps which doesn't mean a whole lot since the danger is your oil.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rob!,Feb 6 2010, 01:02 PM
Although boostedf22c has amazing success with it I dont advise everyone push it to the fullest like him. I know he has a TON of drag racing experience and experience with working on cars. If you arent doing your stuff yourself and not 100% sure how everything works then I wouldnt recommend pushing the car as hard as he did. Im sure he would agree with me. He probably has every possible factor covered and took care of all precautions because its obvious he doesnt spare any expenses when he does a build and does it right.

A ton of evo guys have a lot of success with it. I am considering messing with it on my supra but I myself dont even know a ton about it to do so just yet.
if I did go meth I would bring it back to Jeff to install and Jeff to retune, but I wouldn't increase my boost because I had it. I'm just looking at it as a way to sustain heavy engine speed and boost for an extended time like on a road course. Rob I value your opinion as you know lightyears more then I about this stuff, so when you say you wouldn't push it the way boostedf22 did, do you mean with the additional mods on the car, or the high boost/hp that boostedf22 runs because of meth?
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 08:45 AM
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It's all about the quality of your build. rob! Is absolutely right not every man is created equal or in this case set-up too. Hell reading some posts some people shouldn't even be in the fi forum lol. I'll be pushing it with my built block. I think aem's system is good. Fail safe in the ems to pull timing if there is an error. Check valve and low level sensor. I haven't had an issues so far. You should always be thorough maintaining and going through the check list before and after your tunes. I'm still new to this game but the veterans really do deserve the credit for pushing the limits. Boost juice is about 10$ a gallon usually last me 4-5 full tanks of gas it's poor and go basicaly convience for me. I don't really want to mess with mixig it my self and it not being consistent if your pulling alot oF timing or running alot of boost IMO. The shop I go to has a check list you should go over before you even bring the car and put it on the dyno.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 08:58 AM
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yea I spoke to evans about it and he mentioned how he could setup the fail safe with my ems to have two seperate maps one if the meth fails.

I guess I just want to understand though, are people using meth so they can run more boost mostly? Is anyone using meth just to make their system more reliable by being able to better manage the heat?
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 09:01 AM
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u can buy a 5 gallon jug of m1 for 35 bucks, and buy 5 gallons of distilled water for 5 bucks, bam 10 gallons of the stuff for 40 dollars.

it is true that if you mix by volume u dont get the same 50% mix as if you mix by weight. but, boost juice is 49meth/51water by VOLUME do to shipping laws. soooooo, might as well buy your own stuff and just mix a 50/50 volume mix anyways, its half the price

and fyi, a 50/50 volume mix is like 44/56 weight mix so it aint that bad. just tune accordingly. or mix slightly different.....
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by josserman,Feb 6 2010, 12:58 PM
yea I spoke to evans about it and he mentioned how he could setup the fail safe with my ems to have two seperate maps one if the meth fails.

I guess I just want to understand though, are people using meth so they can run more boost mostly? Is anyone using meth just to make their system more reliable by being able to better manage the heat?
if thats all u want, just spray water. there is zero reaason to spray meth in the mix if your not gonna run more timing and more boost. water will supress detonation better then meth can. meth adds octane to raise your power
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by josserman,Feb 6 2010, 09:21 AM
if I did go meth I would bring it back to Jeff to install and Jeff to retune, but I wouldn't increase my boost because I had it. I'm just looking at it as a way to sustain heavy engine speed and boost for an extended time like on a road course. Rob I value your opinion as you know lightyears more then I about this stuff, so when you say you wouldn't push it the way boostedf22 did, do you mean with the additional mods on the car, or the high boost/hp that boostedf22 runs because of meth?
Well you can run a ton of power with it on regular pump gas. It cant hurt to have it running the same power. I would say 99% of people out there use it for the benefit of being able to run a ton of power on pump gas. Theoretically its almost like running race gas for the fraction of the cost. Downside is you are adding in another option for failure. Failsafes can help that tremendously but like anything on the car it doesnt make it impossible to fail.

If it does fail this is basically what it is. Say your car is tuned for racegas, its like loading that map for timing, fuel and boost and instead of putting in whatever racegas your tuned on (c16,q16 ect..) you put in regular pump gas. You cant expect your engine to last more than 5 seconds.

Like I said im not even an expert on the subject, I would say boostedf22c is the man to talk to because hes proven it to work amazing for him in a real world situation where he used it to the fullest. In example id imagine he ran his car hard enough where if something failed on his meth setup his engine wouldnt last a pull through a gear. So im sure he covered everything nessesary (failsafes and setting it up properly) to avoid blowing a $6k-$7k engine.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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I would also get a flow sensor

My aem was blinking telling me somehting was wrong, so I stayed out of boost, however after I reset the little controller it said it was working normally, it wasn't, it was saying it was spraying, but there was no liquid flowing so keep that in mind

I did go over 15,000miles of of using the METH whenever the car so 1 psi or Above, so I did use it a lot
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 10:52 AM
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But the important question is was your car tuned to the point where the meth was needed to keep your engine running safely? or was it just added as a piece of mind since you turbod a engine that wasnt intended to be boosted? if it fails and you are just using it for added safety then no big deal but if you rely on that meth to make big power and it fails then you are screwed.
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