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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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garrett is now going to offer the tr30r to the public, not much i know about this but im guessing its better then the gt30r now, hard to find info on this, nothings on garrett's site, but their rep at sema states its coming to the public.
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by passmans2kny,Feb 14 2008, 01:28 PM
garrett is now going to offer the tr30r to the public, not much i know about this but im guessing its better then the gt30r now, hard to find info on this, nothings on garrett's site, but their rep at sema states its coming to the public.
im guessing the TR would be the wheel name.


what is the advantage over the GT series wheel?
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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yeah, don't throw something like this out with no info other than what you "heard"... what a tease.
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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Advantages?
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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The TR30 is used in a lot of rally cars. It's rumored to have ridiculously fast spool while still making 4-500 whp. Think 400 whp with 400 ft-lb...

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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 11:42 PM
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maybe t for titanium turbine?
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 07:34 AM
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It doesn't make a lot of sense to release the TR30 to the public its compressor wheel is specifically designed for restricted applications (rally cars) and the turbine wheel is M247 (unobtanuim) which is ridiculously expensive and only needed if you plan on running full time rally style antilag...
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 07:46 AM
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This would be an interesting turbo to try out on the ultra high efficiency F20/F22 engine. Paired with a well designed manifold, I think this turbo would be perfect for 350 rwhp.

Above and beyond that, I'm not sure it would provide any benefit at all. WRC rules mandate fixed geometry turbochargers, and even a well designed turbo only operates in it's peak efficiency over a relatively small range. The 34mm restrictor used in the WRC limits power to about 300 HP, so my guess is that this turbo was designed specifically to provide it's maximum efficiency in the 250-300 HP range. Sure, it will have the ability to move more air without the restrictor, but it will soon be operating out of it's optimum range.

The only major advantage of this turbo is it's exotic material usage. The turbine housing and turbine wheel are designed to withstand the very high temperatures that occur during anti-lag operation. A normal street turbo would fail under repeated anti-lag usage.

From what I read, the Audi R8 used two of these turbos to help create it's 550-600 hp. Again, each turbo is responsible for about 300 HP.

So, in summary, its a fancy Disco Potato.
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by slimjim8201,Feb 15 2008, 08:46 AM
This would be an interesting turbo to try out on the ultra high efficiency F20/F22 engine. Paired with a well designed manifold, I think this turbo would be perfect for 350 rwhp.

Above and beyond that, I'm not sure it would provide any benefit at all. WRC rules mandate fixed geometry turbochargers, and even a well designed turbo only operates in it's peak efficiency over a relatively small range. The 34mm restrictor used in the WRC limits power to about 300 HP, so my guess is that this turbo was designed specifically to provide it's maximum efficiency in the 250-300 HP range. Sure, it will have the ability to move more air without the restrictor, but it will soon be operating out of it's optimum range.

The only major advantage of this turbo is it's exotic material usage. The turbine housing and turbine wheel are designed to withstand the very high temperatures that occur during anti-lag operation. A normal street turbo would fail under repeated anti-lag usage.

From what I read, the Audi R8 used two of these turbos to help create it's 550-600 hp. Again, each turbo is responsible for about 300 HP.

So, in summary, its a fancy Disco Potato.
Actually it can probably flow way more than 300hp worth of air, you have to consider that rally cars are making 300hp with a restrictor, removing that restrictor will let the turbo work at the same pressure ratio but a much higher flow rate.
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