Novi 1500 install
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Originally Posted by manny-s2000' timestamp='1343106803' post='21884172
[quote name='s2000Junky' timestamp='1343063696' post='21882182']
Thanks for the input. I recently found s2kadrenalins build thread to get some insight, and what a drag of a read that is, would make anyone want to quit, and unfortunately I can relate too well myself. Hopefully I’ll have better luck with this next motor and blower transition.
As far as the 1200 goes, is it upgradeable to flow more cfm to say 1500 standards down the road if I wish? I cant recall if say 928 or someone makes an upgraded impellor that flows better, or if that’s the 1220 I’m thinking of and the 1200 is already maxed. Obviously 9:1 compression isnt ideal for a Supercharger set up, it’s a bit low being more for Turbo, so I want to get the most cfm and efficiency I can from the right size blower. I will probably still continue to spray water/meth, if nothing else as a measure of cooling and safety.
Thanks for the input. I recently found s2kadrenalins build thread to get some insight, and what a drag of a read that is, would make anyone want to quit, and unfortunately I can relate too well myself. Hopefully I’ll have better luck with this next motor and blower transition.
As far as the 1200 goes, is it upgradeable to flow more cfm to say 1500 standards down the road if I wish? I cant recall if say 928 or someone makes an upgraded impellor that flows better, or if that’s the 1220 I’m thinking of and the 1200 is already maxed. Obviously 9:1 compression isnt ideal for a Supercharger set up, it’s a bit low being more for Turbo, so I want to get the most cfm and efficiency I can from the right size blower. I will probably still continue to spray water/meth, if nothing else as a measure of cooling and safety.
Before I blew a headgasket via a bad rad cap, my engine was built for high comp n/a 13:1comp and on 10psi with the SOS kit down low went like a train compared to my 9.5:1 (changed pistons) on 21psi.
This was all done on e85 just incase anyone thinks I was crazy
All in all from my experience the car went MUCH better with the higher comp in the low to midrange. I didn't have big enough balls and bankroll to risk going higher psi on that compression. I was even thinking of boxing up my itb setup and using it with my SOS kit but lots of time and money involved to tune it right, so I scrapped that idea.
I am now finishing the fb stage 2 install, but I would love to see what route you go and how it all turns out. Goodluck hopefully some of my experiences can help you out.
Also forgot to mention don't let s2kadrenalin's experience deter you, there arent many competent tuners here in Australia. Also from what I heard and read on here the engine may also have been an issue. Feel for him though he went through hell with that car.
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I will see if I can dig it up.. Off the top of my head I made 330kw atw on the 21psi run before it started slipping
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A couple months ago, I was looking into getting the 1500 instead of upgrading to the 1200, but changed my mine (I have an E85 tune). You'd need a bigger crankshaft pulley (ASP has 7" on file and the turnaround time was like 3-4 weeks). I think ilovemyhonda1984 mentioned in some thread that he he only got 16psi using the stock crankshaft pulley.
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when the air stacks up on the compressor on a supercharger causes the vanes to bend and come apart turbos surging will chatter the compressor wheel before it stops and pop ask me how i know ive had 5 turbo configurations on my 5.9 cummins currently compound turbo and happy no surging at least turbos can slow before they go not an sc just pop my to cents
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky' timestamp='1343111508' post='21884258
Can someone enlighten me on this "compressor Serge" I've been hearing specific to the NV1500?
Definitely looking forward to the outcome of this with the lower compression and the bigger blower. I've often thought about upping the CR on a blower motor and maybe run less boost or keeping it the same. Who know's maybe it would like it. Lol
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A couple months ago, I was looking into getting the 1500 instead of upgrading to the 1200, but changed my mine (I have an E85 tune). You'd need a bigger crankshaft pulley (ASP has 7" on file and the turnaround time was like 3-4 weeks). I think ilovemyhonda1984 mentioned in some thread that he he only got 16psi using the stock crankshaft pulley.
Wouldn’t you need a different size crank pulley to maximize the 1200 as well though? Being it maxes somewhere about 21psi? If I am recalling paxtons website accurately that is.
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i have a turbonetics godzilla that closes at 2 inch vacuum i would thing two bov one that closes at 0 one that closes at 3 psi should let the rpm of the motor be high enough to take in all that air and not surge or one really big bow 2.5''?
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Interesting thought. Yeah the comptech Bosch valve looks to close about -5 vac. Might be too soon for a big blower. This is an area of tuning I’m not that familiar with. But it’s obviously more imperative the higher pressures you start to deal with. Having a BOV I can adjust I think would be smart, and getting one that is large enough to cope. Any recommendations there? It will need to be something I can modify to fit on my Comptech aftercooler.
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The air pump inlet on the blower is a smaller diameter than the diverter valve, so technically it would not flow twice the air. Even if you had twin bosch diverters, you could flow more air with a single 50mm tial bov. If your running a comptech ac, you can easily make your own adapter with a tial flange without hacking up your ac...unlike us SOS guys.
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