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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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I have the same wastegate and i had boost creep with an mbc inline it crept to 10lbs so i took out this little ball and spring inside my mbc and it "fixed" it. It still creeps 1 psi or so.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Spec_Ops2087,Feb 1 2008, 12:00 AM
That flange would defeat the purpose of the larger wastegate however. You would need to port the manifold hole to ~44mm to match the 44mm wastegate. Also, the placement of the wastegate makes it hard to fit anything taller into the location as the 38mm wastegate is only an inch below the AC line.




Makre sure you have no vacuum leaks anywhere.
no vacuum leaks anywhere, it's all steal braided lines. It's nearly impossible to leak.

So if the 44 isn't going to fit that leaves me with no other option then using 7spi springs with boost control. But I don't know if it's possible to set boost control at 2 different settings, low and high boost?
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by YuriArts,Jan 31 2008, 06:16 PM
no vacuum leaks anywhere, it's all steal braided lines. It's nearly impossible to leak.

So if the 44 isn't going to fit that leaves me with no other option then using 7spi springs with boost control. But I don't know if it's possible to set boost control at 2 different settings, low and high boost?
If you got an electronic boost controller, they have 2 built in settings and if you turn the controller off completly, you can run off the spring. So thats 3 settings total
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Spec_Ops2087,Feb 1 2008, 01:21 AM
If you got an electronic boost controller, they have 2 built in settings and if you turn the controller off completly, you can run off the spring. So thats 3 settings total
Thanks Spec, I think that's the way to go then.

I hope the 7 psi spring won't limit the high boost setting too much. Normally you won't get more then twice the spring pressure, so that's 14psi. I hope we can get 23psi though. 14 psi is good for low boost.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by YuriArts,Feb 1 2008, 03:17 AM
Thanks Spec, I think that's the way to go then.

I hope the 7 psi spring won't limit the high boost setting too much. Normally you won't get more then twice the spring pressure, so that's 14psi. I hope we can get 23psi though. 14 psi is good for low boost.
I run a 7psi spring and can get 21psi with much room to spare. I do run a bigger turbo but you should be fine.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Spec_Ops2087,Jan 31 2008, 04:00 PM
That flange would defeat the purpose of the larger wastegate however. You would need to port the manifold hole to ~44mm to match the 44mm wastegate. Also, the placement of the wastegate makes it hard to fit anything taller into the location as the 38mm wastegate is only an inch below the AC line.




Makre sure you have no vacuum leaks anywhere.
Well of course the manifold and flange will need to be ported to matched the 44mm. AC lines can be bent for clearance.

Boost creep is not caused by the wastegate spring...
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by S2KPANG,Feb 1 2008, 05:19 PM
Boost creep is not caused by the wastegate spring...
why do you think it's overboosting?
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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Boost creep occurs when the wastegate cannot flow enough to control set pressure.


This may explain it better http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wastegate
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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You run an AEM EMS correct? Why don't you just use the EMS with a EBC to run high and low boost?? You can set it so it switches maps with the flip of a switch...?

Chris
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by S2KPANG,Feb 1 2008, 11:19 AM
Boost creep is not caused by the wastegate spring...
Correct, however a lighter 5psi spring can help with the problem. But yes, the only real solution is to get a larger wastegate that is capable of handling the flow.
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