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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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So i've had the 06 for a few months now and have been thinking about the S/C, although i don't believe it is out yet (i might be wrong). i have absolutely no experience with forced induction before, as i have always been a NA type of person. do you guys that drive on a daily basis, have any problems with the system? Also, i've heard comtech makes the best SC for hondas, is that what most of you guys are running? Coming from completely stock, what is it going to cost me to have a well ran SC put in?
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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Someone just posted a thread where he says he "heard" that Vortech is the best. You can't believe anything you "hear". Everybody has a different opinion on this. It's up to you to review it all and decide for yourself. Check out the FAQs at the top of this forum, along with the other stickies up there.
Both Comptech and Vortech have had great success on this car and many of both have been daily drivers without any problems. I have a daily driven Vortech and have not had any problems for many years, but so have Comptech owners.
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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i was leaning towards a comptech and while reading the FAQ, it was confirmed that if, i do end up going FI, comptech would be the choice. From what i read, i like the fact that it is a much easier install than the vortech and that comptech primarily is built for hondas.
couple more questions:
Aftercool. got any pics of one? what does it do?
Also, i've read many of the members set up, some of them have a whole lot more than other, i.e. pulleys. Are these all necessary?
i do not intend to be the fastest S out there ( i believe Sideways has that title) just something with a little more boost.
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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Both Vortech and Comptech offers an aftercooler. This is a water to air heat exchanger. When you compress air, it gets hot. Hot air is less dense and has less oxygen and it also has a higher risk of detonation. The cooler "cools" the compressed air before it gets into the engine. You don't have to have it. It's just insurance, but Vortech only comes with aftercooler.
Here's a pic of a Vortech aftercooler. The Comptech looks about the same:

It's the thing labelled "Power Cooler".
The base kit that comes from either company is all you need. There's no need to add anything else unless you want to boost more to get more power.
It's odd that you cite Sideways as the HP king and you are inclined toward Comptech. You know he runs Vortech, right?
I think you need to read more. Comptech is an easier install but find out why and the limitations of it. Similarly, Vortech is more complicated to install, but find out why and what it does different and decide if that's what you want. Both hide boost from the ECU, but Vortech also messes with timing while Comptech doesn't. Find out why and which one makes more sense to you.
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 06:55 AM
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you're right viper, i have got a whole lot more to learn about SC and FI before i do anything. but you have very helpful, as usual, with all my noob questions. i guess i wanted to go with the comptech b/c it seems as if it has less problems, from what many of the users say. Coming from a na SI, i hate to have problems. Guess i have so much more to read.
But if anybody else has anything to add to this thread please do!
thanks again viper.
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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The CT and VT kits are more alike than they are different. Look at the pic of my CT below


and compare it to Xviper's. Look at the piping, the snail, the shape of the aftercooler... almost identical. This forum has a ton of opinions by various people on why they picked the one they did.

Other things I'd search and read about are warranty issues... again various opinions.

As far as daily driveability. If you browse this forum, you'll see there are people that have problems with either kit. In general, it "seems" that the majority do not, even daily driven.

You might also want to do a search for "positive displacement supercharger" in these forums and see what the current state of the union is on that. I was following the development of one kit, but sorta lost track. Maybe it'll be an option for you, in the meantime you can read about the ads/disads of centrifugal (like CT/VT) and other types of blowers.
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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I myself never had an FI car before installing my vortech.I was facing the same situation as yourself... was it gonna be the comptech or the vortech.Didn't know much about S/C's also... and a friend of mine recommended the vortech to me.they just about do everything the same other then the vortech comes with the A/C and comptech doesn't.the vortech is capable of more power then the comptech.basically the vortech offers more bang for you $$$





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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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There is one very large hurdle that you must deal with before supercharging. No company offers a supercharger for your 2006 S2000 since it is drive by wire.

There is a shop (Autowave in Huntington Beach, CA) that has whipped up a piggybacked AEM EMS that will work with a supercharger. The setup will be thousands of dollars more that the base kit.

At this time I recommend you take some high performance drivers education classes and wait until there is a reasonable offering for the newer S2000s.
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Halo,Jul 29 2006, 10:31 AM
The CT and VT kits are more alike than they are different. Look at the pic of my CT below


and compare it to Xviper's. Look at the piping, the snail, the shape of the aftercooler... almost identical. This forum has a ton of opinions by various people on why they picked the one they did.

Other things I'd search and read about are warranty issues... again various opinions.

As far as daily driveability. If you browse this forum, you'll see there are people that have problems with either kit. In general, it "seems" that the majority do not, even daily driven.

You might also want to do a search for "positive displacement supercharger" in these forums and see what the current state of the union is on that. I was following the development of one kit, but sorta lost track. Maybe it'll be an option for you, in the meantime you can read about the ads/disads of centrifugal (like CT/VT) and other types of blowers.
Although they look similar, there are no interchangeable parts between the 2 kits.

Both use different blowers, aftercoolers, mounts, belts, pulleys, FMU's, etc. etc.
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Sideways,Jul 29 2006, 10:47 AM
There is one very large hurdle that you must deal with before supercharging. No company offers a supercharger for your 2006 S2000 since it is drive by wire.
Why would DBW be a problem with S/Cs?
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