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Old May 2, 2017 | 07:05 AM
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Old May 2, 2017 | 08:01 AM
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Old May 2, 2017 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by RAIN H8R
A few questions for you, feel free to PM me if you do nit want to post public or clutter this thread.

-Please provide information on your car build. (Engine, support mods fir the ptuning kit, ecu, etc)
-Do you have any relevant dyno testing history?
-who is your designated tuner?
-what are your power goals with this ptuning kit
-what is the time frame you have in mind to complete your kit installation including tuning?
I'll take your questions from the top

1. I have a 2004 S2000 with 42k miles that is completely stock. Basic overview of the engine build will be as follows:
- Hondata Kpro, and may get their boost by gear and their traction control
- Ptuning Kit with V-Mount setup (Either Touge Factory or SOS)
- GTX3076R or GTX3576R gen 2 turbo (Seriously leaning towards the 35)
- Most likely ID1000's or 1300's
- Aeromotive 340 pump
- Full 76mm exhaust from turbo back
- Will incorporate an Ethanol sensor suite to take advantage of flex fuel and E85 tunes
Engine internals will remain stock for the interim. Later down the line, may look at a 2.4L setup, but that's all too far out to think about as far as my current goals.

2. No dyno testing history to speak of.

3. Even though I'm far away, I'm hoping to get Evans as my tuner. Haven't started any discussions with him yet. Thought it was premature until we had the group buy minimum fulfilled. I'm also open to others, but no matter what, I'll have to travel because as far as I know, there's no one in Albuquerque that's worth while. Hoping someone will correct me if that's not the case.

4. Power goals are currently 400+ whp on 91 octane at ~ 5200' elevation. I'm sure that with these components I'll be able to do better, but a lot will be dependent on the tune. Reason for 91 octane is that's all that is available here in Albuquerque, NM. We have a couple of stations that have E85, but it certainly isn't common.

5. Time frame is honestly more than a year. If I can get it all installed and running before the end of the year, I'd be amazed. Just don't have the time to do it quickly. My S2K is currently my daily driver, and I'll be finding something else to fulfill that role before I start into the mods.

Any questions or comments, feel free. I'm an avid reader, so I've soaked up a lot of info from the forums here and elsewhere, but by no means do I consider myself to be an expert.
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Old May 3, 2017 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by RollCage
I'll take your questions from the top

1. I have a 2004 S2000 with 42k miles that is completely stock. Basic overview of the engine build will be as follows:
- Hondata Kpro, and may get their boost by gear and their traction control
- Ptuning Kit with V-Mount setup (Either Touge Factory or SOS)
- GTX3076R or GTX3576R gen 2 turbo (Seriously leaning towards the 35)
- Most likely ID1000's or 1300's
- Aeromotive 340 pump
- Full 76mm exhaust from turbo back
- Will incorporate an Ethanol sensor suite to take advantage of flex fuel and E85 tunes
Engine internals will remain stock for the interim. Later down the line, may look at a 2.4L setup, but that's all too far out to think about as far as my current goals.

2. No dyno testing history to speak of.

3. Even though I'm far away, I'm hoping to get Evans as my tuner. Haven't started any discussions with him yet. Thought it was premature until we had the group buy minimum fulfilled. I'm also open to others, but no matter what, I'll have to travel because as far as I know, there's no one in Albuquerque that's worth while. Hoping someone will correct me if that's not the case.

4. Power goals are currently 400+ whp on 91 octane at ~ 5200' elevation. I'm sure that with these components I'll be able to do better, but a lot will be dependent on the tune. Reason for 91 octane is that's all that is available here in Albuquerque, NM. We have a couple of stations that have E85, but it certainly isn't common.

5. Time frame is honestly more than a year. If I can get it all installed and running before the end of the year, I'd be amazed. Just don't have the time to do it quickly. My S2K is currently my daily driver, and I'll be finding something else to fulfill that role before I start into the mods.

Any questions or comments, feel free. I'm an avid reader, so I've soaked up a lot of info from the forums here and elsewhere, but by no means do I consider myself to be an expert.
Although things could be different by the time your ready, but Evans is seeing some pretty sizable allegations at this time from what I heard. I think they are literally trying to accuse him of tuning cars "for off road use" knowing it will be street car. This is just from what I skipped over an article may be a lil different. but the bills they are trying to push AND make a "statement" by going after him seemed legit. It's getting pretty serious I guess though.
I hope it's not true but it came from a reputable source so I didn't completely deny it.

I will try to post the article sometime. There is also a few nationwide petitions to fight for what has been in our country's culture and heritage since the beginning of automobiles. So the next few years we as a whole may want to get a little involved to fight for what we love and kick back. The line of legal and illegal is getting very clear. Like no mods at all clear lol.
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Old May 3, 2017 | 10:21 AM
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Old May 3, 2017 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RollCage
I'll take your questions from the top

Any questions or comments, feel free. I'm an avid reader, so I've soaked up a lot of info from the forums here and elsewhere, but by no means do I consider myself to be an expert.
I consider myself an expert :-)

This will serve as a recommendation for the other group buy individuals as well

1. I have a 2004 S2000 with 42k miles that is completely stock. Basic overview of the engine build will be as follows:
- Hondata Kpro, and may get their boost by gear and their traction control I highly recommend the Mac solenoid and traction control, they both work GREAT
- Ptuning Kit with V-Mount setup (Either Touge Factory or SOS) I would opt for the SOS v mount kit, TF hasnt released it yet, and you cannot beat the fit and finish of SOS products, even if it costs more. Please, take my word for it.
- GTX3076R or GTX3576R gen 2 turbo (Seriously leaning towards the 35) This is up for discussion
- Most likely ID1000's or 1300's I recommend jumping to 1300s right away, this way you will not need to upgrade them down the line and require more tuning. You will want to run 1300s with goals above 500whp, unless you want to run higher fuel pressure.
- Aeromotive 340 pump I'd recommend the SOS Walbro 450 kit, one and done just like getting 1300s
- Full 76mm exhaust from turbo back You are set, 3 inch is the way to go.
- Will incorporate an Ethanol sensor suite to take advantage of flex fuel and E85 tunes Consider the SOS Flex fuel sensor kit
Engine internals will remain stock for the interim. Later down the line, may look at a 2.4L setup, but that's all too far out to think about as far as my current goals. Keep it stock until it shows signs of wearing out

2. No dyno testing history to speak of. Buckle up, you learn quick if you like saving yourself money

3. Even though I'm far away, I'm hoping to get Evans as my tuner. Haven't started any discussions with him yet. Thought it was premature until we had the group buy minimum fulfilled. I'm also open to others, but no matter what, I'll have to travel because as far as I know, there's no one in Albuquerque that's worth while. Hoping someone will correct me if that's not the case. Have you considered having SOS tune the car? They are about 6.5 hours from you. Drop it off for install, they take care of everything, you pick up a finished product. Otherwise I can offer my services if you are up for a longer drive or shipping the car. I will be installing my own kit as well as another one of the GB individuals. I do the installs, and I have Tim @ King Motorsports do the tuning.

4. Power goals are currently 400+ whp on 91 octane at ~ 5200' elevation. I'm sure that with these components I'll be able to do better, but a lot will be dependent on the tune. Reason for 91 octane is that's all that is available here in Albuquerque, NM. We have a couple of stations that have E85, but it certainly isn't common. Start mapping out your local E85 stations, 91 octane will get old quickly.

5. Time frame is honestly more than a year. If I can get it all installed and running before the end of the year, I'd be amazed. Just don't have the time to do it quickly. My S2K is currently my daily driver, and I'll be finding something else to fulfill that role before I start into the mods. You have a big challenge ahead of yourself, You will definitely want a second car to drive as a daily. I do not recommend anyone daily drive a highly modified car unless they are exceptionally good at maintaining it.
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Old May 3, 2017 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Memo6453
I knew you would come around! We are up to 12 group buy purchases! Thanks everyone! I thought 10 would be a stretch, but it is nice to see so many of us make this happen!
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Old May 4, 2017 | 06:15 AM
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Old May 4, 2017 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RAIN H8R
I consider myself an expert :-)

This will serve as a recommendation for the other group buy individuals as well

1. I have a 2004 S2000 with 42k miles that is completely stock. Basic overview of the engine build will be as follows:
- Hondata Kpro, and may get their boost by gear and their traction control I highly recommend the Mac solenoid and traction control, they both work GREAT
Nice. Is there a make and model of solenoid that is preferred or recommended these days?

Originally Posted by RAIN H8R
- Ptuning Kit with V-Mount setup (Either Touge Factory or SOS) I would opt for the SOS v mount kit, TF hasnt released it yet, and you cannot beat the fit and finish of SOS products, even if it costs more. Please, take my word for it.
Don't worry, I'll take your word for it Quick question though: I see on SOS's site that their IC core is limited to about 575hp. Would that cause any pause or concern in your eyes? Worried it might not flow enough or pose too much of a restriction...

Originally Posted by RAIN H8R
- GTX3076R or GTX3576R gen 2 turbo (Seriously leaning towards the 35) This is up for discussion
Agreed, but I also don't mind playing a little bit of the guinea pig here if the consensus is that it won't be too much of a leap of faith. Worst case scenario is that it doesn't work as intended for my setup, and I turn around and sell it, then pick up the tried and true GTX3076R

Originally Posted by RAIN H8R
- Most likely ID1000's or 1300's I recommend jumping to 1300s right away, this way you will not need to upgrade them down the line and require more tuning. You will want to run 1300s with goals above 500whp, unless you want to run higher fuel pressure.
Solid advice. Was thinking something similar myself.

Originally Posted by RAIN H8R
- Aeromotive 340 pump I'd recommend the SOS Walbro 450 kit, one and done just like getting 1300s
Is the 450 as quiet as the 340? I know that seems a bit silly, but NVH all adds up, and If I can carefully select my components to reduce it, I will. No doubt that the 450 would be better just from a flow perspective though.

Originally Posted by RAIN H8R
- Full 76mm exhaust from turbo back You are set, 3 inch is the way to go.


Originally Posted by RAIN H8R
- Will incorporate an Ethanol sensor suite to take advantage of flex fuel and E85 tunes Consider the SOS Flex fuel sensor kit.

Engine internals will remain stock for the interim. Later down the line, may look at a 2.4L setup, but that's all too far out to think about as far as my current goals. Keep it stock until it shows signs of wearing out
Sounds good on the internals. I saw the E85 sensor kit on their site, and I admit it looked like an attractive solution.

Originally Posted by RAIN H8R
2. No dyno testing history to speak of. Buckle up, you learn quick if you like saving yourself money
This being my first turbo build, I'm more than willing to take my time, consult people, and then take it to an experienced tuner. I'll willingly pay for expertise when I find it/need it. Your advice so far has been awesome, and we'll definitely be in touch going forward if you're alright with that

Originally Posted by RAIN H8R
3. Even though I'm far away, I'm hoping to get Evans as my tuner. Haven't started any discussions with him yet. Thought it was premature until we had the group buy minimum fulfilled. I'm also open to others, but no matter what, I'll have to travel because as far as I know, there's no one in Albuquerque that's worth while. Hoping someone will correct me if that's not the case. Have you considered having SOS tune the car? They are about 6.5 hours from you. Drop it off for install, they take care of everything, you pick up a finished product. Otherwise I can offer my services if you are up for a longer drive or shipping the car. I will be installing my own kit as well as another one of the GB individuals. I do the installs, and I have Tim @ King Motorsports do the tuning.
I'll definitely keep that in mind. It's a pretty attractive option from where I'm sitting. Like I said, we'll be in touch going forward

Originally Posted by RAIN H8R
5. Time frame is honestly more than a year. If I can get it all installed and running before the end of the year, I'd be amazed. Just don't have the time to do it quickly. My S2K is currently my daily driver, and I'll be finding something else to fulfill that role before I start into the mods. You have a big challenge ahead of yourself, You will definitely want a second car to drive as a daily. I do not recommend anyone daily drive a highly modified car unless they are exceptionally good at maintaining it.
Agreed. Been there before, and although I consider myself good at maintenance, I think it's just a foolish gambit to not have a second vehicle for when something goes wrong

Thank you for all your advice. I seriously appreciate it, doubly so coming from one of S2KI's veterans. Considering this is my first turbo build, I'll take all the advice I can get
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Old May 4, 2017 | 09:26 AM
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The Walbro 450 is as quiet as the Aero 340 that I replaced it with. Make sure you get an upgraded fuel pressure regulator. I bent the diaphram on my factory one with an AEM 320 and hard wired pump. Plus, fuel pressure adjustment is a big factor in tuning, especially if you get a wild hare and decide to up the wick on it with E85 in the future. Definitely take the advice on overdoing it now. You will save money in the long run. The ID's idle just as well as the 1000's.

I too am in agreement with Rain on this one. Stock unopened engines are the most reliable, even under boost. A built engine can make/handle more power, but not as long as a stock one with just a little more conservative tune.
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