so wut do i hv to do to make a turbo setup at about 300-370 whp dead reliable and cool for track like conditions

 

I don't know that I would call a HG a built motor...ABV made over 400(hub)hp with a 2mm HG motor and JohnZ and Sideways made over 400 but have head work. The point was that 400(hub)hp is not unattainable on a SC.

Every FI track car is turbocharged not supercharged? I have seen supercharged MR2's, Vette's, Miata's, Elise's, the Exige S, 911's, Stang's, etc...I am sure I could come up with more examples.

I'll be at Miller Motorsports Park on March 29th for an open track day. Come out and prove me wrong, man...I'll switch to a turbo setup if you run 5 sessions without a hiccup cuz I have NEVER denied that turbocharging makes more power. Where the hell is MSM? Mike, will you please chime in and let us know what happened to your TC'd race car?

BTW, when I said heat problems I said nothing of overheating. I was talking about melting your stock fuse box/wiring harness, motor mounts, etc...I meant engine bay heat.

 

Spec...just noticed you are all the way in Jersey...kinda far away. Well, I am sure there are plenty of tracks around there...Pocono can't be far and a few others. Why not give it a go? If what you say is true, then you won't have any issues and you'll come away learning a few things from your instructor and you'll have had a hell of a lot of fun beating up on friggin' everything with 500whp.

 

At the bottom of this page are some dyno numbers of a variety of setups for those interested:
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...=313786&st=275

 

I only knew of johnz and sideways off the top of my head as I know both of them have head work. I can't comment on ABV but seeing how (at least I thought) john z doesn't have a HG and has head work and he hit 414 or something I can't see how abv would hit 400+ with a hg that would lower your power but gain reliability. But again I don't know any specifics, my point was that there are VERY few 400+ s2ks also none of which track their cars at road courses so does that mean a 400+ SC car is just as unreliable?

I should have been more specific, I was referring to "professional" (aka drivers paid a considerable amount of money to race, not weekend track warriors that are doing it for fun) race cars hence why I said it was kind of apples to oranges in our debate.

I can't run 5 sessions as I acknowledge the fact that I simply do not have the cooling modifications for running 5 straight sessions at a road course. If I bought a larger radiator and some kind of oil cooler, I would no doubt take you up on the offer .

With a simple vented hood, and maybe a slightly more aerodynamic under tray engine bay heat would not be an issue anymore then a NA car.

People have to realize that, correct, you cannot just bolt on a turbo to a stock car that was no where near designed to run that kind of power and deal with that kind of heat. With proper modifications and design, it can be just as reliable as a SC as well as completely blowing one away.

 

[QUOTE=CourageOO7,Mar 16 2008, 11:00 PM] Spec...just noticed you are all the way in Jersey...kinda far away.

 

Right so, like I was saying before, if you want 80% of the performance of a turbo setup with reliability you can track without any additional modification, a supercharged setup does the trick.

 

Correct, I just don't like hearing a TC cannot be track reliable as thats just a bunch of BS (unfortunately believe by just about everyone on the entire s2ki forum).

It can be ever bit as reliable, it just needs a few other support mods

 

And I grow tired of hearing how sucky supercharged setups are...they have their niche.

 

so wut would i need guys to have a dead reliable turbo that would be trackable? what coolings mods etc