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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 10:54 AM
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Well first off which blower is this 1220 or 1200? Because they both have a different rpm cap. A 1200 with a 3.2" pulley max rpm is 8350rpm. I saw average 17psi there. Now, couple that with 91 oct and id say you are pushing the comfort level of most tuners. The stock fuel system with a 340 and 1000cc injectors will handle this no problem, but will the tune on the engine is the question. If you rev beyond 8350rpm or bump down even smaller to a 3" pulley, your not only risking the blower bearings, but ramping up additional IAT, and that's going to further up your chance of detonation. 1 point of OCT does make a noticeable difference when your tuning window is this small between not enough timing and too much to keep the motor in a healthy running state in a fluid environment. The lower the oct and the more boost you make, the smaller the tuning window gets for you to work within. A SC does help keep that window a bit broader vs a turbo however since all the boost is concentrated at the end of the rpm band. But it still needs to be right.
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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
Well first off which blower is this 1220 or 1200? Because they both have a different rpm cap. A 1200 with a 3.2" pulley max rpm is 8350rpm. I saw average 17psi there. Now, couple that with 91 oct and id say you are pushing the comfort level of most tuners. The stock fuel system with a 340 and 1000cc injectors will handle this no problem, but will the tune on the engine is the question. If you rev beyond 8350rpm or bump down even smaller to a 3" pulley, your not only risking the blower bearings, but ramping up additional IAT, and that's going to further up your chance of detonation. 1 point of OCT does make a noticeable difference when your tuning window is this small between not enough timing and too much to keep the motor in a healthy running state in a fluid environment. The lower the oct and the more boost you make, the smaller the tuning window gets for you to work within. A SC does help keep that window a bit broader vs a turbo however since all the boost is concentrated at the end of the rpm band. But it still needs to be right.
Hey junky I'm running the novi 1200 with upgraded heat exchanger... So what I really wanna know is what's the safest size pulley should I be running on 91 pump gas( damn u california)
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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by KiNgKoNg723
Originally Posted by s2000Junky' timestamp='1439146496' post='23709139
Well first off which blower is this 1220 or 1200? Because they both have a different rpm cap. A 1200 with a 3.2" pulley max rpm is 8350rpm. I saw average 17psi there. Now, couple that with 91 oct and id say you are pushing the comfort level of most tuners. The stock fuel system with a 340 and 1000cc injectors will handle this no problem, but will the tune on the engine is the question. If you rev beyond 8350rpm or bump down even smaller to a 3" pulley, your not only risking the blower bearings, but ramping up additional IAT, and that's going to further up your chance of detonation. 1 point of OCT does make a noticeable difference when your tuning window is this small between not enough timing and too much to keep the motor in a healthy running state in a fluid environment. The lower the oct and the more boost you make, the smaller the tuning window gets for you to work within. A SC does help keep that window a bit broader vs a turbo however since all the boost is concentrated at the end of the rpm band. But it still needs to be right.
Hey junky I'm running the novi 1200 with upgraded heat exchanger... So what I really wanna know is what's the safest size pulley should I be running on 91 pump gas( damn u california)
This is a question for the guy who is going to be tuning your car, because he is the guy that will be the one to screw it up if he gets it wrong. If you have spent much time in the FI threads, you will notice that 11-14psi is the typical range. Some have gone higher with some success, but that success will depend on your supporting mods which influence your detonation window such as cooling effectiveness in your set up and the tuners ability to read the detonation window he is working with. If I were tuning your car on 91 i don't think id feel comfortable going smaller then a 3.8" pulley. I made 12-13psi on your blower with one. It scooted quite nice at this level. Probably pushing 400whp.
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Old Aug 10, 2015 | 08:32 AM
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Thanks junky.... So I'll just stay at this level until I'm ready for e85( only other gas in california)
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Old Aug 10, 2015 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by KiNgKoNg723
Thanks junky.... So I'll just stay at this level until I'm ready for e85( only other gas in california)
If you have that prevalent enough to be practical, id be all over it! Wish we had it here in WA.
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