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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 07:59 AM
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I run a gt35r mase kit at just under 20 psi, making 475 whp on slightly better than pump gas. I run a non restrictive 3 inch exhaust.

I fully spool by 5700 rpm seems a bit late just wondering what other people spool by on similar setups.

I'm thinking cams or Woodruff keys could help.

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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 08:29 AM
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do you use an electronic boost controller?
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 08:42 AM
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I think you can help spool and response in one of the settings if you're running AEM EMS with a boost solenoid.
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 08:52 AM
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Yeah i use aem boost solenoid.

I have a had a play with the boost tables, at the moment if i request say 14.8 psi it gives me 19 (boost compensation is off) which is the boost i actually want in 3-6th gear but not sure how this would increase spool rate ie lower revs.

Not sure if 5700 is normal for a gt35r?

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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by s2konroids
Yeah i use aem boost solenoid.

I have a had a play with the boost tables, at the moment if i request say 14.8 psi it gives me 19 (boost compensation is off) which is the boost i actually want in 3-6th gear but not sure how this would increase spool rate ie lower revs.

Not sure if 5700 is normal for a gt35r?

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well, that shows that you need to fix those tables. what you request is what you should get, and then you can manipulate spool.
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 09:07 AM
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So i can really improve on it as far as when it fully spools by in revs? - i find it hard to believe that it could drop it much say from 5700 to 5400 for example - not doubting you, just it would be awesome if i could.

I have played with these tables just didnt think requested vs actual would make a difference to spool - i admit its off at the moment.

My boost is held all the way to redline at 19psi which is what i want.




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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 10:52 AM
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Waste gate spring makes a difference in spool up at higher boost levels. I opt to test out the 4 port solenoid rather than changing out the wastegate spring.

Ptuning Kit GTX3076. E85. 25psi - 30psi. 7 lb wastegate spring.?

You can definitely notice the difference on the butt pull between a 3 port and a 4 port. Boost just comes on faster when going from 4K rpm to 5K rpm on the boost gauge and holds steadily to redline.

The thing I don't like about the 4-port solenoid is that it is very sensitive to small duty cycle changes. Small changes results in large oscillation of boost. Took me a while to dial it in on the street. I can't even tell you how a 4th gear pull feels like. Just hold on the steering wheel and point it as straight as possible, even then it is a struggle to keep it straight. Wish I could rev it to 10K rpm, but it is way out of my comfort zone.

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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 11:09 AM
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is this aem v1? use boost control by speed setting, and you can tweak in there and get it all dialed in. def room to make it spool faster.
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by indi00
Waste gate spring makes a difference in spool up at higher boost levels. I opt to test out the 4 port solenoid rather than changing out the wastegate spring.

Ptuning Kit GTX3076. E85. 25psi - 30psi. 7 lb wastegate spring.?

You can definitely notice the difference on the butt pull between a 3 port and a 4 port. Boost just comes on faster when going from 4K rpm to 5K rpm on the boost gauge and holds steadily to redline.

The thing I don't like about the 4-port solenoid is that it is very sensitive to small duty cycle changes. Small changes results in large oscillation of boost. Took me a while to dial it in on the street. I can't even tell you how a 4th gear pull feels like. Just hold on the steering wheel and point it as straight as possible, even then it is a struggle to keep it straight. Wish I could rev it to 10K rpm, but it is way out of my comfort zone.

the point is ? u better use higher pounds westgate spring for higher boost ?
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by s2konroids
Yeah i use aem boost solenoid.

I have a had a play with the boost tables, at the moment if i request say 14.8 psi it gives me 19 (boost compensation is off) which is the boost i actually want in 3-6th gear but not sure how this would increase spool rate ie lower revs.

Not sure if 5700 is normal for a gt35r?

Thanks
In the boost target comp window, you need to reduce the % at the 15psi to ~ -60%. It is mainly trail and error. Reduce the boost comp % value until your boost gauge matches your request boost of 14.8psi. Your boost comp % is too high that is why you are getting 19 psi.

Your boost table is set 99.6 duty cyle. You boost comp % at 15psi is ~ -45% duty cyle. 99.6 - 45 = 54.6 duty cycle. At 54.6 duty cycle, you make 19psi.

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the point is ? u better use higher pounds westgate spring for higher boost ?
Yes. Use a spring close to your target boost if you are running a 3 port boost solenoid to increase spool vs. rpm. Or run a 4 port solenoid.
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