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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by woo
Originally Posted by coreyfrenzel' timestamp='1301354991' post='20405116
I just got my car tuned and I was wondering if the numbers are normal to what others have squeezed out of their cars. I have an AP1 with a Comptech blower on 10psi, intercooled. Test pipe, HKS exhaust, RC550s, and an AEM EMS 2. The car made 330whp on the dyno today. It's actually still at the shop. Please post your numbers to compare. My issue is that while it was being tuned, the first pull had a result of 330whp (the motor was cool). The rest of the pulls were 295whp (with the motor warm, obviously). The tuner, who is well-known for tuning on AEM, said that everything was fine and that they contacted AEM about it too and got no answer as to why it would be that far off. I'm trying to figure this out since it's such a big difference in power. Would it really jump down THAT much after warming up?
Nothing is wrong with your compression, its the intercooler you're running that's causing the powerloss.Your numbers are correct because you are intercooled. You will lose about 3-4psi of boost because of the charge pipes and the intercooler being very effecient. I am running a vortech intercooler setup similar to your comptech I'm supposed to be hitting 14-16 psi range but since I have an intercooler I'm only seeing 12psi. If you want more power, slap the aftercooler back on and you'll most likely see a 20-30whp increase! guaranteed
I think you meant inefficient intercooler.
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by S2SEXY
i was running the 3.2 pulley on my ap1 and i made 308 on a dynodynamics or 361 flywheel hp
novi 1000
megan header and full 2.75mm exhaust
FMIC w/3"piping
car made 9.5 psi@9k
Considering that same blower/pulley size is netting me 13psi and about 400whp. I'd say the intercooler deal for an SC isn't very effective in making the most of the set up.
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
Originally Posted by S2SEXY' timestamp='1302142543' post='20438479
i was running the 3.2 pulley on my ap1 and i made 308 on a dynodynamics or 361 flywheel hp
novi 1000
megan header and full 2.75mm exhaust
FMIC w/3"piping
car made 9.5 psi@9k
Considering that same blower/pulley size is netting me 13psi and about 400whp. I'd say the intercooler deal for an SC isn't very effective in making the most of the set up.
I was about to say that same thing, FMIC in my opinion is just now very effecient in a SC, we are pretty limited to our boost levels and want to get the most out of it. I know it can be cheaper that getting the AC, but to me it doesn't seem worth it. I am currently non AC and hitting 290@7lbs, have a 3" and a water meth kit ready to install. I wonder what kind of power I will make, If i can come close to 400whp I would be extremely happy lol
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by drkphnx
Originally Posted by s2000Junky' timestamp='1302144684' post='20438582
[quote name='S2SEXY' timestamp='1302142543' post='20438479']
i was running the 3.2 pulley on my ap1 and i made 308 on a dynodynamics or 361 flywheel hp
novi 1000
megan header and full 2.75mm exhaust
FMIC w/3"piping
car made 9.5 psi@9k
Considering that same blower/pulley size is netting me 13psi and about 400whp. I'd say the intercooler deal for an SC isn't very effective in making the most of the set up.
I was about to say that same thing, FMIC in my opinion is just now very effecient in a SC, we are pretty limited to our boost levels and want to get the most out of it. I know it can be cheaper that getting the AC, but to me it doesn't seem worth it. I am currently non AC and hitting 290@7lbs, have a 3" and a water meth kit ready to install. I wonder what kind of power I will make, If i can come close to 400whp I would be extremely happy lol
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Yeah, you will want a 3.2" pulley at least, to get there.
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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370whp on 8psi (dynapack). Just a 70mm tp, hks 75mm single, 650cc's, and toda header. Tuned on flashpro.
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by drkphnx
Originally Posted by s2000Junky' timestamp='1302144684' post='20438582
[quote name='S2SEXY' timestamp='1302142543' post='20438479']
i was running the 3.2 pulley on my ap1 and i made 308 on a dynodynamics or 361 flywheel hp
novi 1000
megan header and full 2.75mm exhaust
FMIC w/3"piping
car made 9.5 psi@9k
Considering that same blower/pulley size is netting me 13psi and about 400whp. I'd say the intercooler deal for an SC isn't very effective in making the most of the set up.
I was about to say that same thing, FMIC in my opinion is just now very effecient in a SC, we are pretty limited to our boost levels and want to get the most out of it. I know it can be cheaper that getting the AC, but to me it doesn't seem worth it. I am currently non AC and hitting 290@7lbs, have a 3" and a water meth kit ready to install. I wonder what kind of power I will make, If i can come close to 400whp I would be extremely happy lol
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I went with the intercooler because of the cooling benefits.I agree that the intercooler runs too efficient. I am running a 3.2" pulley @ 12psi(381whp) w/meth,F22c motor.
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dragtek
370whp on 8psi (dynapack). Just a 70mm tp, hks 75mm single, 650cc's, and toda header. Tuned on flashpro.
can you tell us what system? comptech? vortech? kraftwerks? if comptech, what model? Novi 1000, 1220, 1200? Those dynapacks read high lol, I dynoed at 350whp on a hot day with no supporting mods non aftercooled, ctsc novi 1000.
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by woo
Originally Posted by drkphnx' timestamp='1302641974' post='20458911
[quote name='s2000Junky' timestamp='1302144684' post='20438582']
[quote name='S2SEXY' timestamp='1302142543' post='20438479']
i was running the 3.2 pulley on my ap1 and i made 308 on a dynodynamics or 361 flywheel hp
novi 1000
megan header and full 2.75mm exhaust
FMIC w/3"piping
car made 9.5 psi@9k
Considering that same blower/pulley size is netting me 13psi and about 400whp. I'd say the intercooler deal for an SC isn't very effective in making the most of the set up.
I was about to say that same thing, FMIC in my opinion is just now very effecient in a SC, we are pretty limited to our boost levels and want to get the most out of it. I know it can be cheaper that getting the AC, but to me it doesn't seem worth it. I am currently non AC and hitting 290@7lbs, have a 3" and a water meth kit ready to install. I wonder what kind of power I will make, If i can come close to 400whp I would be extremely happy lol
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I went with the intercooler because of the cooling benefits.I agree that the intercooler runs too efficient. I am running a 3.2" pulley @ 12psi(381whp) w/meth,F22c motor.
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Oops, sorry for the confusion, i meant not, not now. It's not very effecient in my opninion, we loose too much boost going through all that piping, but it seems like u did't loose much at all with ur set up. 12psi on a 3.2" isnt bad at all for an ap2 with a FMIC. Both u and S2000junky made some great power, I'm hoping the meth kit help a lot. Im second guessing my 3" pulley purchase, i hope i dont over spin the bearings too much. I should have gone with the 3.2" oh well, if i break it i'l upgrade to the 1200 lol
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by drkphnx
Originally Posted by dragtek' timestamp='1302719333' post='20462811
370whp on 8psi (dynapack). Just a 70mm tp, hks 75mm single, 650cc's, and toda header. Tuned on flashpro.
can you tell us what system? comptech? vortech? kraftwerks? if comptech, what model? Novi 1000, 1220, 1200? Those dynapacks read high lol, I dynoed at 350whp on a hot day with no supporting mods non aftercooled, ctsc novi 1000.

Wow, that's a great number for no mods and no AC. I have a comptech novi1000 with AC.
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by drkphnx
Originally Posted by woo' timestamp='1302719931' post='20462867
[quote name='drkphnx' timestamp='1302641974' post='20458911']
[quote name='s2000Junky' timestamp='1302144684' post='20438582']
[quote name='S2SEXY' timestamp='1302142543' post='20438479']
i was running the 3.2 pulley on my ap1 and i made 308 on a dynodynamics or 361 flywheel hp
novi 1000
megan header and full 2.75mm exhaust
FMIC w/3"piping
car made 9.5 psi@9k
Considering that same blower/pulley size is netting me 13psi and about 400whp. I'd say the intercooler deal for an SC isn't very effective in making the most of the set up.
I was about to say that same thing, FMIC in my opinion is just now very effecient in a SC, we are pretty limited to our boost levels and want to get the most out of it. I know it can be cheaper that getting the AC, but to me it doesn't seem worth it. I am currently non AC and hitting 290@7lbs, have a 3" and a water meth kit ready to install. I wonder what kind of power I will make, If i can come close to 400whp I would be extremely happy lol
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I went with the intercooler because of the cooling benefits.I agree that the intercooler runs too efficient. I am running a 3.2" pulley @ 12psi(381whp) w/meth,F22c motor.
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Oops, sorry for the confusion, i meant not, not now. It's not very effecient in my opninion, we loose too much boost going through all that piping, but it seems like u did't loose much at all with ur set up. 12psi on a 3.2" isnt bad at all for an ap2 with a FMIC. Both u and S2000junky made some great power, I'm hoping the meth kit help a lot. Im second guessing my 3" pulley purchase, i hope i dont over spin the bearings too much. I should have gone with the 3.2" oh well, if i break it i'l upgrade to the 1200 lol
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The Novi1000 max impeller speed is suppose to be 55k which means a 3" pulley at about 8500rpm. 3.2" taken to 9k comes in a little less speed. But I wouldn't worry about it, like you say you can upgrade to a new blower. Running water/meth injection will help out allot with cooling the hotter AIT from spinning the blower at its peak, and of course the usual benefits of adding more timing. I'm running OEM timing advance at 13psi with no detonation detected.
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