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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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It's all about what people are willing to pay for. If they're not willing to pay 2K for a bumper or something, they're going to go with a replica. No amount of saving up is going to change that. I personally don't think any kit is worth what any of these companies charge for.
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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This shit always ruins threads... seriously guys, we have all heard all the arguments on both sides. Let the whole argument rest and if you dont agree with someone else then just let the thread die.

None of us are going to convince each other of anything either way...
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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Replicas hardly hurt the industry. All you guys bashing replicas sound silly. Those who can afford the authentic pieces will purchase them and those that cannot will purchase replicas. The Japanese manufacturers are losing very few customers due to replicas. You need also remember much of the cost of authentic parts is tariffs and associated import costs... these parts are "over-priced" and far from practical.

Look at all the vendors on here selling Japanese parts... new ones are popping up all the time. JDM parts are becoming increasingly more available in the U.S. Clearly their businesses are not struggling to find customers.

"Don't buy Rotas? If you can't afford real wheels, stick with stock wheels?" That is a ridiculous thing to say! What about those concerned with getting the best performance for their dollar? Go to a track event where REAL motorsports enthusiasts are and say something like that! That shit may fly on this forum or at a HIN show, but it sounds downright stupid to me.

FYI: there is not a single replica part on my car... but I'm not about to bash other people because they want to improve their car while being financially responsible! You guys are plain rude. Lets play nice here. We all love our S2000's. That, we can agree on.
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JRSC EM1,Jun 15 2008, 12:29 PM
I drive around daily on a set of Work wheels... If something happens to them I would get mad, but its the price I have to pay to drive around on them...

How would you feel if you came out with a product of your own? You spent months or maybe even years designing it and testing it. 4 months after you unveil your product and are trying to recoup your losses and development costs someone buys one of your products and copies it. They have no money into development and are able to sell the product at HALF of your cost. They may not steal ALL of your sales, but they sure steal some of your would be profits. How would that make you feel? Would you have the same attitude? I think not...
1. If you have the option of 1) driving around on authentic, super-jdm Work wheels that if you get a nick and "get mad", or 2) getting a knock-off set of wheels that if they get a nick, you can just blow off and whatever and be happier, I don't see why you would go with option 1. I mean sure, it's a great priviledge to be able to afford and obtain these super nice parts, but why get all bent out of shape when someone else spends less on essentially the same thing? After all, it just allows you the feel even more 'mightier than thou' if you roll on all authentic JDM yo parts. And not everyone has nice roads everywhere they go.

2. If I spent months/years developing products that allowed me to be able to afford to research and develope new, better products, as well as fund multiple race cars, I would be flattered if someone made replicas. It gives them a kick in the butt to develope newer, even better parts, giving customers a better choice in upgrading their car, and replica parts are free advertising IMO. Granted, they may make a few less sales, but I think enough people will still opt for the real thing. Just my 2 cents.
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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[QUOTE=cuonice,Jun 15 2008, 05:31 PM] Replicas hardly hurt the industry.
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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how about lets all just let those that wanna buy replicas buy replicas...and those who are all about authentic parts buy the authentic parts? easy as 1,2,3. Not to mention that it will generate less drama and arguing on here.

I personally believe that those who are loyal to the authentic JDM parts will purchase from the authentic vendors, while some of us opt for the cheaper alternative.

As for fitment...I have the authentic C-west N1 version 1 front bumper and seriously it doesnt fit well. I know many others who have purchased authentic body parts and had issues with fitment. NOW dont get me wrong, i am not bashing authentic parts. I'm just saying that even the authentic products (some) will have fitment issues.

Yes it is a fake kit. REPLICA. so be it. If you know your J's type S kit is authentic then more power to you. I am ordering one of these kits not to be the tester. but i unfortunately cannot afford the price and wait time of the authentic J's kit. The Educators salary isnt very well.

Just my .02, but we really should stop the arguing.

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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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This is all ridiculous, people have different priorities, please forgive me for running rotas as my daily driver rims, so that I can afford to run racing slicks on my oems for autox. Yeah bring your super duper jdm wheels or whatever on street tires and watch me have a 2-5 second advantage over you. I'll just laugh if you say something well i'm more of a s2000 owner because i have works or volks.

And yes I also have a replica asm bumper, but you know what it fits perfect, it's a flexible type of fiber glass and looks good, after mowing down cones here and there, i dont' give a ****, cause i didn't pay out the ass for it.
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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[QUOTE=JRSC EM1,Jun 15 2008, 12:29 PM]Ripping people off ?! Yeah, not really. They need to turn a profit in order to stay afloat and they also have to develop the parts and SPEND MONEY to do so. Its not like the products they are creating just make and design themselves. That occurs only for the knock off companies. The companies also do wind tunnel testing, track testing and maybe even competing in races with the product. Oh, I forgot all that is free too. The option shouldnt be there to get the knock offs. You should either have to spend the money to get the product or not be able to get it at all.

I dont give a shit if there is the possibility that there may be damage to the part. You have go to pay to play as the other poster above has stated. I agree .
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cuonice,Jun 15 2008, 05:31 PM
Replicas hardly hurt the industry. All you guys bashing replicas sound silly. Those who can afford the authentic pieces will purchase them and those that cannot will purchase replicas. The Japanese manufacturers are losing very few customers due to replicas. You need also remember much of the cost of authentic parts is tariffs and associated import costs... these parts are "over-priced" and far from practical.
Hardly hurt the industry? HA! are you serious? We sound silly? Pfft! The Japanese manufacturers are losing customers? what are you in the Japanese sensus bureu. All these companies that are making money off of knock offs from other companies are eating up 25% of the real manufacturers earnings and clientel and at times it can even go upto 50% of it(This all being a guestimate of what ive been told). Next thing you know the company goes under due to the fact of these replicating PARASITES that feed of their work in the R&D field and the time and sacrifice they put into making their parts.

Tariffs, Import and frieght charges dosnt have anything to do with it, im in the Import/Export, Freight Forwarding industry and let me tell you thats grade a BS the costs are not that high on getting parts over here so spare me that.
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by VeilSide AP1,Jun 15 2008, 08:31 PM
Hardly hurt the industry? HA! are you serious? We sound silly? Pfft! The Japanese manufacturers are losing customers? what are you in the Japanese sensus bureu. All these companies that are making money off of knock offs from other companies are eating up 25% of the real manufacturers earnings and clientel and at times it can even go upto 50% of it(This all being a guestimate of what ive been told). Next thing you know the company goes under due to the fact of these replicating PARASITES that feed of their work in the R&D field and the time and sacrifice they put into making their parts.

Tariffs, Import and frieght charges dosnt have anything to do with it, im in the Import/Export, Freight Forwarding industry and let me tell you thats grade a BS the costs are not that high on getting parts over here so spare me that.
You work in the import/export business? Vandelay Industries? lol... [/Seinfeld reference]

On a serious note Im glad someone has a brain in here (meaning you). Fake parts do hurt the industry.
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