OK the install is 80% complete after day 2...we are now just making the grill covers for the kick panels an tuning the front stage a bit more. I think we need to add a phase converter tomorrow to help that out a little but we will see... The 10" in the floor hit you in the chest like a punch to the chest...it's breathtaking...really... Unfortunately I was so tired I left the camera at the shop so I can't post pics tonight. I will post pics by mid-day tomorrow of the finished product. And to everyone that has writen and and "Your Ballsy" ....I know ....I know ...

Here are some pics not posted last night!

Update...updated pics here.

 

Can't wait to see the final product.

Keep us updated.

 

If this car ever gets in an accident, t-boned, I hope that there is not an innocent passenger in the car because their chance for survival is minimal. Are your passengers aware of the structural damage that you have done to the car?

In Europe you have to go every 2 years to a checkpoint where they check the car for structural damage, brake, lights, etc... you would never be allowed to drive away! :-)


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As long as this car is never driven on the street, it's fine. But if some half-wit decides to take this thing for a joy ride...

 

How much integrity do you guys think that this owner really lost? He did fill the holes with a welded basket made of steel (at least it appears to be steel).

Wouldn't filling in the holes give back to the integrity, especially if he properly wleded them in there?

...and how much chassis flex can be introduced to the whole of the chassis with the two holes cut where they are? Don't the transmission tunnel, doors, and door sills account for the torsional strength in that area of the chassis?

Since he's already cut the car, let's see the results before we castrate the S2000 steering wheel of ownership from his hands. It's obvious that he will most likely not be tracking his car, so the little chassis strength he lost may be suitable for his driving needs.

IMHO, the car is too stiff and too responsive for the average driver. My wife's first drive after ownership resulted in a spin due to her always knowing cars to understeer and not be as throttle responsive.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Luder94
[B]How much integrity do you guys think that this owner really lost?

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Luder94
[B]How much integrity do you guys think that this owner really lost?

 

I mean come on are you serious... If it makes you feel better people in my car feel safer then they do on a motorcycle in which when they get T-Boned they will be in a far worse position. Yet we still ride on our bikes all the time. I think you are taking it a bit far in pretty much calling my car a death trap... Just my opinion though. To each his own.

 

your loss

 

All you change with an x-brace (any x-brace) is where load is transferred to. Without the brace, load is transferred to different components of the suspension. When you stiffen that up, you transfer load to the next weakest link. In theory, you can stiffen up the chassis to the ultimate "tightness" but you'll adversly affect handling in two ways: 1) the car will be very heavy, and 2) we still roll on rubber tires; if nothing else gives, the tires and wheels will give.

Of all the road going production cars, the S2000 chassis is one of the stiffest of all, you only notice the change of characteristics of the x-brace because it's changed the load on the suspension components and not as much on the chassis....

Yes the car isn't a coupe but was well designed to be stiff in the mid-section with the use of the transmission tunnel, door sills, doors, etc. Like I've stated, this owner has cut holes in the floor pan (made of "flexible aluminum", mind you), and then filled the holes with steel. The only give that I see in this design is with the walls of the basket. If anything is going to get crushed, or give in an accident, or wildly aggressive turn-ins, it will be the walls of the baskets (and that's if flex is even an issue in the area the floor pan was cut).