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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 03:55 PM
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u know i think that yur all making way too big of a deal outa this. a guy decides he wants to do sumthin, he's obviously thought about it and put a lot of money into it and is nice enough to take pictures and share them with the rest of us. the least we could all do is tell him the truth....which is: dude u did a great job, looks awesome, bet it sounds awesome. keep on enjoying yur car.
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by Luder94




Of all the road going production cars, the S2000 chassis is one of the stiffest of all, you only notice the change of characteristics of the x-brace because it's changed the load on the suspension components and not as much on the chassis....

Yes the car isn't a coupe but was well designed to be stiff in the mid-section with the use of the transmission tunnel, door sills, doors, etc.
Thanks for the update Luder94 (X-brace) :-) makes sense to me. However I disagree with the rest. I don't think it makes a big difference when he replaces the midsection with this metal bucket but the door sills are different. I am an engineer and I used to make money calculating this stuff. However I bet with you that the structure is compromised because he cut the two door sills. I think that the transmission tunnel takes 80% of the load and 20% the door sills. However think about a building with one main support in the center and 4 outside to keep it stiff. Would you cut your 4 supporting struts and than go to sleep in the same house ?? I would not :-)
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by sky-chicken


Thanks for the update Luder94 (X-brace) :-) makes sense to me. However I disagree with the rest. I don't think it makes a big difference when he replaces the midsection with this metal bucket but the door sills are different. I am an engineer and I used to make money calculating this stuff. However I bet with you that the structure is compromised because he cut the two door sills. I think that the transmission tunnel takes 80% of the load and 20% the door sills. However think about a building with one main support in the center and 4 outside to keep it stiff. Would you cut your 4 supporting struts and than go to sleep in the same house ?? I would not :-)
You do realize that there are 4 different walls in the door sills each about 1" deeper in. I only cut the first one. There are three other completely intact walls holding themselves to the door sills. The door sills and kick panels and the rest of the car of course if made of all these pieces of sheet metal welded together. The door sills themselves are comprised of several walls making a series of tunnels in the door sill. Once again I cut only the outermost wall to gain the extra 1" required. The other three walls are intact. Resulting in MUCH of the original structural integrity intact. Understand? I understand that you may be an engineer but unless I am mistaken you have no prior knowledge of how all of the pieces of sheet metal come together to create the body of the car. So how can you make a statement on the structural intregrity of the car? I have spent weeks now studying the inside of these passageways to see exaxtly how the car was assembled and how it is so stiff and also spent time with what I have been told were "experts" looking at what I proposed and given them looking at the car they agreed that a minimal amount of integrity would be lost because of all the layers of metal honda used to make the body so stiff.

On the same note. These passages are what makes the system sound so good. The passages are all covered in dynomat to create a perfect fully enclosed enclosure for the kicks panels.
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by Cyber Logic


I have spent weeks now studying the inside of these passageways to see exaxtly how the car was assembled and how it is so stiff and also spent time with what I have been told were "experts" looking at what I proposed and given them looking at the car they agreed that a minimal amount of integrity would be lost because of all the layers of metal honda used to make the body so stiff.

Weeks ??? Honda spends "million's of man years" designing cars to make them drivable and safe. Do you really want to tell me that this part of the car is not necessary?? have fun
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 12:17 AM
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Cyber Logic, I am going to assume that you own this car audio shop. That amount of work including the parts and labor would be about 1/3 of the MSRP of our cars. It's one thing to get the job done, and another to get it done exceptionally well and clean like your project demonstrated. Your stereo must sound incredible.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 07:40 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Project Dream
[B]Cyber Logic, I am going to assume that you own this car audio shop.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 02:34 PM
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bump, where are the new pics??
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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WOW! I am very impressed. Please share some more pics when you can.
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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bump, more pics please
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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updated finished pics please?
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