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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 01:11 AM
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Alright, so I'm thinking of wrapping a section of my door panel in the 3M carbon fiber vinyl. The section I'm thinking of wrapping is the top section that meets the window and also has the tweeter mounted on it. I know it has been done before (https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/802...inyl+wrap+door) but the OP said he was having difficulty with the new vinyl sticking to the original vinyl. He also stated that he attempted to solve this by removing the stock vinyl and applying fiberglass resin before redoing the CF vinyl work which gave him better results. I do not have the resources readily available to apply resin to my door panels so...

My question to the S2KI community is...if I remove the stock vinyl and foam underneath the vinyl, should the new vinyl stick to the plastic underneath all the above (OEM vinyl/foam)? Of course I would ensure all original vinyl and foam is removed prior to applying the new 3M vinyl. Is there some kind of glue/adhesive I can use to help bond the new vinyl to the plastic door panel shell? Would something like superglue work even though the 3M vinyl has a self adhesive?

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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 08:34 PM
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I don't think you can remove the vinyl if you're talking about the top portion. That's all molded plastic I believe.

The reason the stuff doesn't stick is because the plastic is textured. You could try sanding it smooth and tryin that.

Personally, I would just buy a set of used vinyl pices for it. You're gonna spend a lot of time and money to do that right.
I've seen sets of cf door panels sell here for like $200. You can also go back to stock later and sell the cf pieces.

Wrapping anything in vinyl is very time consuming and if you have no experience doing it, it can get really expensive since we're all so stubborn. Lol.

Good luck.
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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No matter how good of a job you do, it's still a vinyl sticker. It will fade, bubble, scratch..etc.

If buying panels are out, maybe look in to hydro dipping?
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 03:38 PM
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Well I know the vinyl can be removed because my dog already did that for me (well a portion of it at least). There is a very thin layer of foam underneath the vinyl which will also need to be removed before the vinyl can be installed. Under the foam is the plastic frame of the door panel. This is the surface I am thinking of applying the vinyl to.

I understand that it may be frustrating to work with, but I have spare panels to try it on so I was just looking for any input from anyone who may have attempted this.

Hydro dipping? Never heard of it. Time for a google search...

EDIT: Hydro dipping looks really nice...except for the carbon fiber style that they do. That looks cheap, gross, and extremely fake. I know the vinyl doesn't look exactly like the real thing, but it looks much better IMO than that hydro dipping. The other prints that they do looks really good though, like the camo or wood grain...

http://www.hydro-dip.com/
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 11:04 AM
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3M vinyl will not peel/fade/bubble for at least 5 years, as long as it is installed properly. If you can get a smooth surface, and it's 100% clean then I think you'd be able to make it happen. As far as making it stick better, check here: http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3...beQH8HT14PGTgl
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 09:06 PM
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I don't know exactly the surface you are attempting to wrap, but it should be able to coat what you're attempting to do. BE WARNED THOUGH!!!!! You MUST prep the surface correctly. Make sure you remove ALL armor-all or leather treater/cleaner, and don't use a cleaner that leaves behind any oil or residue or the vinyl will peal. I recommend using Dawn soap for the initial clean and then a final wipe with isopropyl alcohol before attempting to wrap. The final product is all in the prep work.... you MUST prep the surface properly. If you do that you're golden!! Give it a shot! The worst thing that happens is you mess it up and pull it off. PM me if you have any specific questions.
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Old Jan 1, 2012 | 07:46 AM
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A good wash plus clay worked for me. The finishing of the wrapping turned out better. Without claying, you do end up getting the vinyl adhesive attracting all kinds of micro particles. :/
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 07:34 AM
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Scratches will show over time with the 3M Carbon Vinyl. If you really want that look, I suggest that you find carbon fiber cloth/fabric wrap. Either way, prep-work is key. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201689
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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 09:05 AM
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All the interior vinyl can be removed. Quite easily as a matter of fact. The 3M products hold up rather well. It can be scuffed - such as the door sills. Rather hard to scratch the stuff. Wrapping the interior is all about prep work.

Be sure to check out the new line of auto wraps Scotchprint 1080.

Adam
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