Yeah, well I have seen some idiot instructors too.

 

your absolutely right, there is not a right way at all according to how your supposed to do it. But does that mean my setup is not safe? I needed something to keep me in the seat at watkins glen, thunderbolt, ect. I am sick of having to use energy to hold myself in place.

 

Safe is a relative term. You are probably safer than not wearing a belt at all. However, you are probably less safe in that setup than wearing the OEM seatbelt. There is nothing to keep your upper body from popping right through those harness straps in a crash.

They feel tight now, but watch crash video. See how far harnesses can stretch under real crash loads.

And what is the sub strap attached to? The correct setup in an S2000 is 6-pt belts, because each sub strap can be bolted to the floor on either side of the box beam that runs down the floor in middle of the seat.

Race seats also hold you in place side-to-side, which complements the harness. The harness mainly holds you in place to the front.

The harness has two purposes. In the event you do not crash, it holds you in place as you drive. Your setup probably works fine for this. But in the event you do crash, your setup would not be very good. Therefore, I think it fails at the more important purpose.

 

Yea, the instructions say the belt stretches up to 20% in a serious crash, which is a significant amount.

What if i made something to keep the shoulder straps together? Like some harnesses come with. Like this...

 

That's supposed to keep your hands from flying around as a passenger, I assume. Might be better than nothing, I don't know.

But my personal choice was different. I kept the car safety systems bone stock for years, then went to a welded-in roll bar (and softtop delete) with 6-pts and race seats and HANS. I personally was not comfortable with any of the possible in-between steps.

But this is something every person has to decide for himself, every time he gets into a car.

 

the straps for your shoulders will come apart and shoot you out the top in a wreck.

also how do you ahve them looped around that 15 dolla piece of pipe? it doesnt look like its tied down correctly at all

 

well, the way it sits now i am worrying about the upper part getting loose in even of a crash. It sits nice and tight now, but it's not securely tight down, like i said many roll bar has two metal retaining hoop, that keep the shoulder belt from getting side movement.

again, what's the wall thickiness of the pipe? if it's thick enough you can weld in a retaininer hoop or even run a eye bolt on it.

if all you need is less movement then you could look into racing bucket, or even a cheap GC lock

 

idk how thick it is exactly but i know its about twice as thick as the cusco bar. what do you mean by metal retaining hoop?

 

Only correct way to do a harness is with a roll bar and the correct seat.


I thought the safety rules also stated that shoulder harness must mass thought a harness hole/guide of the racing seat and must not pass over the top.

BTW the Cusco is better then nothing but does not meet the SCCA GCR for dim and wall thickness Especially since it is chrommoly; even the safety 21 steel version is below spec.




Picture whore
A real roll bar





PLUS
Correct Seat (FIA)



EQUALES the correct setup with a 4,5,6 point

 

Damn, it must be nice having money lol. Thanks for the help guys. Im selling my stock seats and buying a pair of sparcos. That should solve my problems. Thanks again.