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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gernby
Is the Helmholtz chamber removable for those that have a test pipe (and won't get benefit from it)? Do you have the stock VTEC engagement / tune? If not, do you notice much loss in mid-range from the Helmholtz?
gernby, why does the Helmholtz cause a loss of power? Does it create turbulance in that area and disrupts airflow? Is it the same with the OEM Helmholtz resonator?
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 03:20 AM
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Well after ARK left a lot potential buyers hanging in their original introduction post of this supposed "quiet" single, it's about time we see some real feedback. From the looks of some of the welds, it come be better & improved esp for their original asking mspr price. It looks a lot bigger than I thought. Did you weigh it? I'll also be checking back for the video of the sound. However I don't think i'd buy it for more than $500 even if it's a quiet single. Why couldn't they had tucked the extra canister up more?
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Vitt
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Is the Helmholtz chamber removable for those that have a test pipe (and won't get benefit from it)? Do you have the stock VTEC engagement / tune? If not, do you notice much loss in mid-range from the Helmholtz?
gernby, why does the Helmholtz cause a loss of power? Does it create turbulance in that area and disrupts airflow? Is it the same with the OEM Helmholtz resonator?

The stock exhaust does not have a Helmholtz resonator. It has a "quarter wave resonator", or "closed end branch duct". As far as I know, the only 2 exhausts that have Helmholtz resonators are this one and the HKS dual. Since a Helmholtz resonator cancels out pulses at certain frequencies, it could just as easily cancel out the good pulses that would otherwise increase torque. That's why it bothers me that they never showed any dyno plots with a lowered VTEC engagement.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 05:07 AM
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I thought the reason to go single was to be lighter and straighter? This doesnt look either.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 05:48 AM
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could these pics be any bigger On the other hand are you selling your invidia single?
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 06:39 AM
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Looks good minus the way too low resonator. No report on thoughts to go with those pics? On as side note - LOVE the Tamon spoiler.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by gernby
The stock exhaust does not have a Helmholtz resonator. It has a "quarter wave resonator", or "closed end branch duct". As far as I know, the only 2 exhausts that have Helmholtz resonators are this one and the HKS dual. Since a Helmholtz resonator cancels out pulses at certain frequencies, it could just as easily cancel out the good pulses that would otherwise increase torque. That's why it bothers me that they never showed any dyno plots with a lowered VTEC engagement.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 08:34 AM
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Correct. The helmholtz cancels out specific range of frequencies. What we did was find the range in which drone occurs and measured the different variables needed to cancel that range out. The helmholtz will not affect performance in any way. We have 3rd party testers already set for getting a dyno done at around their locations. We will post them up as soon as they send over the results.

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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ARKperformance
The helmholtz will not affect performance in any way.

It really concerns me that you believe that. Every design element of the exhaust impacts the shape of the torque curve, especially when VTEC is engaged.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 09:31 AM
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We have already tested this on our projects that are currently out in production.
370z
350z
G35
G37
Genesis Coupe 3.8
Genesis Coupe 2.0T
Kia Forte Single DTS
Tiburon DTS
GR WRX STI

Just to name a few. The helmholtz and quarter length pipes that we used mainly focuses on Sound waves rather than Gas.
I would be able to drive on the freeway, take it to the shop, put it on a lift, and put my bare hands on the quarter length pipe without getting burned.

The only thing we have to provide dyno charts from our testers
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