ASM vs. ARC
Could of sworn Titanium was lighter, stronger and more durable than steal or aluminum could ever be.
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Originally Posted by Orpheus,Nov 5 2008, 08:02 PM
well, stronger does not necessarily mean stiffer. bamboo is one of the strongest woods, however, you can see that it sways in the wind quite a bit... it just simply never breaks.
ti is more resilient, like steel. it doesn't fatigue. and it also might be stronger as well. i don't know metallurgy or anything, so i'm not an expert. but i do have experience with high-end bicycle frames. it is well known that for bike frames, ti is very noticeably flexier. aluminum and carbon fiber are the stiffest--lance armstrong's frame is carbon and pretty much has no flex.
anyway, ti is known to flex the most for bicycle frames. i have a "soft tail" dean ti frame. it is basically a full-suspension frame without any joint! how does it work? well, it still has a shock, like normal full suspension frames. however, the rear triangle flexes so much that you don't even need a ball bearing pivot!!! when i stand on it and pedal, i can see the gears move side to side almost 1/2 cm in the derailleur... that's how much it flexes. the frame itself though is ultra light.
anyway, not my choice for a strut bar, which should flex as little as possible.
ti is more resilient, like steel. it doesn't fatigue. and it also might be stronger as well. i don't know metallurgy or anything, so i'm not an expert. but i do have experience with high-end bicycle frames. it is well known that for bike frames, ti is very noticeably flexier. aluminum and carbon fiber are the stiffest--lance armstrong's frame is carbon and pretty much has no flex.
anyway, ti is known to flex the most for bicycle frames. i have a "soft tail" dean ti frame. it is basically a full-suspension frame without any joint! how does it work? well, it still has a shock, like normal full suspension frames. however, the rear triangle flexes so much that you don't even need a ball bearing pivot!!! when i stand on it and pedal, i can see the gears move side to side almost 1/2 cm in the derailleur... that's how much it flexes. the frame itself though is ultra light.
anyway, not my choice for a strut bar, which should flex as little as possible.
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Originally Posted by Orpheus,Nov 5 2008, 08:02 PM
well, stronger does not necessarily mean stiffer. bamboo is one of the strongest woods, however, you can see that it sways in the wind quite a bit... it just simply never breaks.
ti is more resilient, like steel. it doesn't fatigue. and it also might be stronger as well. i don't know metallurgy or anything, so i'm not an expert. but i do have experience with high-end bicycle frames. it is well known that for bike frames, ti is very noticeably flexier. aluminum and carbon fiber are the stiffest--lance armstrong's frame is carbon and pretty much has no flex.
anyway, ti is known to flex the most for bicycle frames. i have a "soft tail" dean ti frame. it is basically a full-suspension frame without any joint! how does it work? well, it still has a shock, like normal full suspension frames. however, the rear triangle flexes so much that you don't even need a ball bearing pivot!!! when i stand on it and pedal, i can see the gears move side to side almost 1/2 cm in the derailleur... that's how much it flexes. the frame itself though is ultra light.
anyway, not my choice for a strut bar, which should flex as little as possible.
ti is more resilient, like steel. it doesn't fatigue. and it also might be stronger as well. i don't know metallurgy or anything, so i'm not an expert. but i do have experience with high-end bicycle frames. it is well known that for bike frames, ti is very noticeably flexier. aluminum and carbon fiber are the stiffest--lance armstrong's frame is carbon and pretty much has no flex.
anyway, ti is known to flex the most for bicycle frames. i have a "soft tail" dean ti frame. it is basically a full-suspension frame without any joint! how does it work? well, it still has a shock, like normal full suspension frames. however, the rear triangle flexes so much that you don't even need a ball bearing pivot!!! when i stand on it and pedal, i can see the gears move side to side almost 1/2 cm in the derailleur... that's how much it flexes. the frame itself though is ultra light.
anyway, not my choice for a strut bar, which should flex as little as possible.
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Also what does everyone think when comparing say the ASM to a strut bar + x-bar as separate units. You could save a couple hundred bucks buying them separate for instance spoon strut $169 + Spoon Sports Chassis X-Brace 219 = $388.
It seems to me that almost all strut bars would perform about the same as long as they hit the same points.
It seems to me that almost all strut bars would perform about the same as long as they hit the same points.