Hi everyone

Thanks for your time on reading this fourm，I am in a place where I can upgrade my stock struct，my car is now has the karcept front and rear sway bar and a set of 17 9 square set up wheel and tire，the use of the car will be mainly autox and weekend street drive，I do have plan to compete myself in CST group and track driving as well，my initial plan is go modified ohlins，and here is my question
1. Does ohlins long stroke kit really that matter？I think the most track and autox focus ohlins should be the fspec long stroke kit with 14k spring，but that price is 4.3k which is very close to a MCS two way non remote，so if I have the bidget，for pure track and autox driving，does MCS worth the extra money except the 2 way adjustbility
2. How does mcs drive on street？if I choose 14 or 16k spring，will it be unacceptable stiff and bumpy？

Thank you

 

MCS for sure. It's a true motor sport designed monotube shock. Ohlins shocks are nice, but the DFVs are their budget option - not the same as the TTX and overall design has very little cross over.

The MCS shocks whether going 1W, 2W/NR, 3W, etc. are all using the same shock body and components. If you get a 1W shock, you can send them back to MCS to have them upgraded to a 2W or 3W shock if you want to.
The 2WNR also does not have the rear travel limitations that the Ohlins DFV suffers from (remedied with the shorter cups, but still an inherent design issue). Finally, having separate compression/rebound adjust is definitely preferred if you know what you're doing.

I'm biased though, I went MCS 2wnr - 750/700 lbs springs. I drive my car to and from the track - turn the knobs down (softer) for street driving and up (stiffer) for track - works well. Run full aero with 18x10.5 wheels with 265 tires square.
As far as spring rates - I think 16KG is overkill for the street. my preference to keep it to 14KG and under. If you have a good shock, you shouldn't need to run such a stiff spring - let the shock do the work instead of trying to mask short comings with overly stiff springs.

 

Yeh，I am more towards to mcs 2WNR，I mean to say the ohlins long stroke kit is only like 500 bucks cheaper than MCS，and sounds like mcs is way better build

 

I have FPSpec valved FPSports with 16k/16k springs, I drive the car to the track and a bit in the back roads and the ride quality is fine IMO. Though my vote is also MCS

 

Questions on ride comfort will be hard to answer here though. I run 13k/11k on mine. It is ok on the street but it is of course a harsher ride than stock. I am on a setup using old Koni 8242 DA's coupled with Hyperco springs so not an MCS setup but can say that it is of course going to feel a lot more harsh on the stiffer springs. However, ones tolerance to that will vary. My wife for sure notices when we go on street drives, I am more used to it and probably put 2000 miles on mine per year so am not daily driving it constantly.

I have autocrossed on MCS back to back with my setup and the MCS is very nice. And for a car that you are trying to build for track and autox use, it is hands down MCS over Ohlins IMO. MCS is designed more for a serious motorsports setup vs a spirited street setup. Brian at Karcepts is very supportive of what he sells so dont hesitate talking spring rates and stuff with him on the MCS setup to make a good decision. He is a fast driver with a lot of experience on our platform and in general runs a great business.

 

Harsh than stock is fine，I just want it driveable on street，I have a STI as well on hks sp，that coilover is too bumpy to drive on the road sometime on MA broken road，I just want it keep the minium comfort for me to drive it to track and autox and some weekend cruise in nice weather with top down