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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 02:30 PM
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i remember bringing this up and some people thought I was crazy. haha. I did this to both my s2k and supra.

If you didn't want to wire a switch, just short the connector with a paperclip or something. Just make sure to remember to put it in neutral first.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by crazysupratt,Oct 21 2010, 02:30 PM
i remember bringing this up and some people thought I was crazy. haha. I did this to both my s2k and supra.

If you didn't want to wire a switch, just short the connector with a paperclip or something. Just make sure to remember to put it in neutral first.
Yeah I as well have done this to my twelve Supra's and now my S2k. I like the switch idea just in case someone is screwing around or something.
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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Does pushing the clutch in when the car is off cause any wear? Like if I leave it parked in gear and then push the clutch in to put it neutral before starting the car is there any wear doing this?
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoabitchin,Oct 26 2010, 04:58 PM
Does pushing the clutch in when the car is off cause any wear? Like if I leave it parked in gear and then push the clutch in to put it neutral before starting the car is there any wear doing this?
If your car is in gear, you can select it out of gear when the car is not started, but yes the same rules would apply, a non lubricated bearing is being pressed on during this, if your car is stock then you really have nothing to worry about, this is mainly for after market pressure plates, but I still did it to my car.
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Old Jun 5, 2021 | 12:31 PM
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Reviving this old thread because I’m on the hunt for the actual plastic connector on part “I”. My thought is to have something completely reversible without any soldering or splicing.

Essentially I’m going for this:
Existing female connector from car > just the connector portion from part “I” > two new wires leading out > momentary switch connected to two new wires.


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Old Jun 6, 2021 | 05:33 AM
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Any Honda or Acura dealer has the parts, they're common to all Honda "stick shift" cars.

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Old Jun 8, 2021 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck S
Any Honda or Acura dealer has the parts, they're common to all Honda "stick shift" cars.

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Originally Posted by CR22
Reviving this old thread because I’m on the hunt for the actual plastic connector on part “I”. My thought is to have something completely reversible without any soldering or splicing.

Essentially I’m going for this:
Existing female connector from car > just the connector portion from part “I” > two new wires leading out > momentary switch connected to two new wires.

Only a handful of OEMs actually sell serviceable bits of their connectors. You will need to try and find out what type of connector the switch uses (Tyco, etc), or check a site like https://www.ksvlooms.com/collections...rs/brand_honda
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Old Apr 22, 2022 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by OneSilverS2k
If your car is in gear, you can select it out of gear when the car is not started, but yes the same rules would apply, a non lubricated bearing is being pressed on during this, if your car is stock then you really have nothing to worry about, this is mainly for after market pressure plates, but I still did it to my car.
Sorry to bump a relatively old thread but I just want to confirm if this is correct. From my understanding (which can be wrong), there are no issues with using the clutch with the engine off. The problem is from heavy clutches which applies strong lateral load on the crank from initial start up before engine oil is circulated. Can someone confirm?
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Old Apr 22, 2022 | 11:21 AM
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The bearing "problem" is highly exaggerated. The real problem is engaging the starter with the car in gear and the clutch engaged -- including the famous "what does this button do, Daddy?" or your teenage daughter thinking they can Stop the engine with the Start button like on Mom's car. Sitting at endless traffic lights with the clutch pedal is more of a problem.

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Old Apr 22, 2022 | 06:52 PM
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Its cold starts with pedal pressed that is the biggest issue. This is hard on the thrust washer bearing. Even worse with aftermarket pressure plate (more force).

Sitting at a light woth pedal pressed is also hard on this engine bearing, as well as the clutch throwout bearing (Honda calls it a release bearing).

The point of the bypass is to allow starting car without having to press pedal.

Simply hard bypassing (wire or paperclip) is risky. If someone else drives car, tire/alignment tech, etc), they might start car in gear and run into something.

Much better to bypass clutch to another switch. My preference is brake switch. Force driver to press brake or clutch to start car.

If they're not an idiot but don't know about your bypass, clutch still works to start. Occasional clutch pedal starts are ok.

If they're an idiot and shouldn't be driving stick, when car lurches from starting, they're already pressing 'safety' pedal. Brakes will restrain lurch.

Or bypass to some other switch. Dual purpose some existing switch, or add one, but wire so that clutch pedal still works.

You use switch, everyone else uses clutch.
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