Sounds like good customer service to me.

 

Not quite. You told me in person before I drove away with the exhaust that the 70-SSP has "no drone" and that is wrong. Someone from Evasive (not sure who) also made this statement here in this thread:

All I am saying, is that it definitely drones (verified by a few others besides myself) between 3-4k RPM. Also, after hearing the T1R 70-EM in person, I would have to say that the 70-SSP drones more in the cruising range (3-4k RPM). I am simply providing the information to other potential buyers that I wish I had before buying the exhaust.

This is true, you were very patient and very accommodating. I would rate your customer service as excellent.

You are right that I couldn't make it for the original appointment. I had some unexpected family issues to deal with. However, you are wrong that I didn't call you. I called Evasive that same day before my appointment with you guys to tell you that I wouldn't be able to make it. It seems that there may be some lack of communication between you and your employees unfortunately.

It was very nice of you to agree to show me the exhaust on a Saturday after I was unable to make the previous appointment. Don't call it a no-show though, I called to let Evasive know I wouldn't be able to make the first appointment.

Also, the second appointment we made was for 3 PM. You told me that that was about when you'd be done working on your car. You also mentioned to me that if I could come over earlier, you would give me a call. At the same time, I informed you that it was at least a 45 minute drive for me to get to the shop.
You called me at 12:30PM (right as I was in the middle of eating lunch) and told me that I could come over earlier. I agreed and left after I finished lunch (at 1 PM). There was much more traffic than expected at that time of day and I got to your door like you said at 2:30. I am not sure how you expected me to get there any earlier with such a short notice especially when I told you how long it would take me to drive there. If I had left exactly at 12:30 and there were no traffic whatsoever, I would still have never made it by 1 PM.

It is VERY quiet at idle, not something I expected for sure. That is why I commented on it's quietness. Also, I did (and still do) love how it sounds when blipping the throttle and driving WOT in VTEC.

 

I was and am very thankful that you agreed to give me a ride in your car. However, your drive was 1. Very very short (less than 3 minutes) 2. Didn't simulate normal driving that would give an indication of drone (freeway driving, 3-4K cruising at higher speeds when the car is under light load). 3. Very aggressive in terms of throttle input. You were WOT it seemed most of the short time I was in the car. 4. Your car had a test pipe which I later found out decreases drone quite a bit (I was never informed of this by you guys).

In lower revs when there is no (or very little) load, the car IS very quiet with nearly imperceptible drone. It is when you are lightly accelerating at 3-4K RPM that the drone is worst, and I didn't get an opportunity to hear your car in that scenario.

Being someone that is new to S2000s (I let you know this), It was very hard to for me to discern what noises were coming from your clutch and what noises were coming from your exhaust. Some of the drone that I thought was your clutch, may in fact have been coming from the exhaust... I am not quite sure. However, one thing is certain, it wass hard to isolate the exhaust sound specifically, when you car is modified as extensively as it is.

I can't comment on that, as I wasn't outside the car (obviously) when you did your WOT run. I can say however, that after installing and listening to the exhaust, I love how the car sounds from the outside. There is one caveat though, if this is the quietest single 70mm exhaust out there, then I am in complete shock. This is one loud, loud exhaust from the outside. It would (in my opinion) attract lots of negative attention if you were to get on the throttle all the time.

Also, I'm not sure if you missed my quote from earlier in this thread where I said:

Like I said, I love how it sounds, but I am trying to let other potential purchasers know that if you intend to use this on your daily driver, you will likely not enjoy the loud volume and drone levels during cruising speeds. THAT IS ALL I'M TRYING TO DO. IN NO WAY AM I TRYING TO DEFAME EVASIVE MOTORSPORTS.

I won't say that you were dishonest (at least not knowingly), but you did leave out critical information that would have possibly prevented me from buying the exhaust. Call that what you will.

Yes I did. THAT specific exhaust fit great. The tip was centered and it was fine. MINE isn't. Also, the bracket for the extra hanger was machined improperly and I had to drill out one of the holes to make it fit. I was never told that I would have to modify the bracket to make it fit. Personally, I don't think that I should have had to after paying $1100 for the exhaust.

I don't have any animosity toward Evasive Motorsports (maybe you meant audacity...). I do apologize for not explaining everything you did (or at least tried to do) to show me the exhaust. I didn't think people on this board would want to read the long tome that this post has now become, but at least now they know.

After reading this post from you guys:

and these posts from others:


I felt that my (unbiased) review would be helpful for anyone trying to decide whether or not to buy this exhaust. Again, let me reiterate that I only posted my review of this exhaust to help other potential buyers out, NOT IN ANY WAY to defame or vilify Evasive Motorsports.

 

Greatfox do you even know what drone is because you sound like a newb s2000 owner. Seems like u cant wrench on cars because u cant even get a simple exhaust on. You sound like a tool bag also. If u want something daily just keep your stock exhaust on.

Drone is a 70rr or a amuse r1.

I have this exhaust it this dosnt drone louder then my t1r em.

 

yesterday, i met greatfox(Dallas) in anaheim. he's very friendly and honest. so i had a 10 minute ride in his s2000. he did everything to show me how this exhaust sounds. EVS 70-SSP exhaust and a test pipe were the only mods.

it's quiet as oem exhaust under 2500rpm. from 5000-8000rpm, it sounds great WOT. the tone is clear, not raspy. BUT 3000-4000rpm just drones. he cruised 2 minutes under 3000-4000rpm to show me how it is. from 4000-8000rpm, it doesn't drone at all.

i think he's trying to share his experience instead of basing a vendor here.

 

Did I miss something here? What's up with the name calling? He made no attacks at you. greatfox thanks for sharing your experience with this exhaust. I hope that more owners can chime in as well.

 

Naww I just think he is a newb s2000 owner that dosnt know what drone is or what to buy for his car. I have the EVS exhaust also don't have any drone at all. If any of you guys wanna hear it I live in CA any one can come down and hear it. Seems to me he likes to bash a company for creating a exhaust that makes power and sound nice. Lets be real, this guy is getting mad because it drones in 3-4k haha most exhaust systems drone regardless. Just sell on the boards on here and someone will buy it move on.

 

Naww I just think he is a newb s2000 owner that dosnt know what drone is or what to buy for his car. I have the EVS exhaust also don't have any drone at all. If any of you guys wanna hear it I live in CA any one can come down and hear it. Seems to me he likes to bash a company for creating a exhaust that makes power and sound nice. Lets be real, this guy is getting mad because it drones in 3-4k haha most exhaust systems drone regardless. Just sell on the boards on here and someone will buy it move on.

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He was giving his honest review about an exhaust system which he had purchased, I see nothing wrong with that, he was not bashing but simply stating his opinion on a product he has experience with, something that the OP was looking for. The name calling on your end makes you seem more a "noob" than he is, grow up, at one point you started off as one as well.

 

Greatfox said it drones so bad that he need to wear ear plugs. I think he didn't install the exhaust right because I drive everyday without a problem also talking to my passenger in 3-4k on the freeway. Number one just don't get a exhaust if you are going to complain about every little thing you put on your car. I was never a noob with my car when I first started

 

maybe i can meet you and hear it.

the exhaust can be daily, but the drone was terrible. be honest, greatfox's car drones badly around 3000-4000rpm.