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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 09:28 PM
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After consistent modifying of your S to enable you to go faster at the track, you encounter a fork in the road. Do you keep it legal for the street or do you go full banzai and turn it into a time attack/spec class racer? Either one you choose, you will begin to feel that the drive to the track will eventually become extremely uncomfortable; unbearable drone, banshee crippling wind noise from the hardtop, over sprung pelvis shattering shocks, and wallet crippling fuel mileage due to bad tuning. Face it, the more serious you get about track time, the more viable towing will sound to you. But trailering is so burdening when not tracking that most people tend not to even purchase a trailer. Space is also another negative factor in terms of storage. After speaking with Joe from autoLogic in San Bruno, CA., about this dilemma, he suggested I look for a flat tow solution. I began to search the net for the ultimate compromise to the trailering problem and realized it didn't exist for s2k owners.
I challenged Joe to the task and the next day, I pulled up to his shop with the s2k without it's bumper on and left it with a pair of harbor freight mounts that came with a harbor freight universal flat tow kit (selling for about less than $100.00 USD)sitting at work at my dreary day job, I pictured Joe slung over in his tall yellow duct tape wrapped high stool sketching and going about the little notes of past projects he has created in his brain for long past custom fabrications. My game with Joe has always been, break something and see if Joe can fix it or fabricate an alternative. Honestly, he has yet to lose.
4 hours later, I received first glimpses of the almost finished product. He took off the front bumper beam and created a custom piece strong enough to hold a 2 story house. He fabricated a flat tow beam that is strong enough to tow and yet versatile enough to have the bumper possibly be out back on in less than 5 minutes. We're going to test his product this weekend going to and from the "blacktrax test and tune day" at thunder hill. If your interested in this rig feel free ton talk to Joe at AutoLogic in San Bruno California. He loves custom fabrications and can create anything you would need. He's done countless fabrications on my S2000 and also my c5 z06. See you guys at the track and try the flat tow! It's the best of both worlds!
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 04:24 AM
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Interesting. Can you post some pictures?
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 05:05 AM
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I thought it was terrible on our diffs to be towed.
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 05:54 AM
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Do you know that larger injectors only allow you to go through fuel quicker? They don't necessitate that.

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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dwight
Interesting. Can you post some pictures?
I had heard this too. Plus you still need a tow vehicle. So all you're really saving is the trailer, but you need dedicated towing tires for your dedicated track car. . . . the car still gets the wear and tear on the suspension from the road... I don't know, I don't really like this idea.

Now, a semi-reliably towing solution can be had for 3-4k bucks. I have 3k in mine. $1500 for a 95 bronco that doubles as my winter beater, and 1,500 for an 18' steel dovetail open trailer. But I have tons of storage...
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 09:27 AM
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You need to verify that the transmission's oil pump is pumping oil while you're pulling it. Since you'll need to keep it in neutral, only some of the transmission shafts will be spinning. It would suck to burn it up on your first long tow ...

BTW, large injectors don't cause bad fuel economy; bad tunes do.

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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 10:23 AM
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edited. thanks guys!!! wow. didn't know that could ruin your tranny. interesting. even though its in neutral?
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 01:21 PM
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That's pretty clever. Would it be legal to fabricate front and rear towing dollies to get the car entirely off the ground without using a trailer?
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 07:39 PM
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The tranny's oil pump is driven EITHER by the input side OR the output side of the mechanism, which is disconnected when in neutral. If it is driven by the input side, then you should NOT tow it with the rear wheels on the ground. If it is driven by the output side, then you should NOT let the engine warm up after a cold start with the clutch engaged.
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by gernby
The tranny's oil pump is driven EITHER by the input side OR the output side of the mechanism, which is disconnected when in neutral. If it is driven by the input side, then you should NOT tow it with the rear wheels on the ground. If it is driven by the output side, then you should NOT let the engine warm up after a cold start with the clutch engaged.
Interesting. I did find this article regarding this matter. http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2923397
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