I've just heard the F20 takes alot more to make power, and isnt as reliable.
Another thing is that K parts are a bit easier to get than the F20... We only have about 10 s2000s here in Jamaica.

But if i can build an F20 with 250-270 whp reliably than can run for a year without being rebuilt- i may just go that route.

 

I believe that money can buy just about anything, I just think it will be less expensive to find 270 all motor hp out a K than an F.

 

Talk to a reputable builder and go from there. I don't see 250+ coming from a F20C without major work which would mean impacting reliability.

To keep it reliable to me would mean, stock everything except go for BC stg2 cams and skunk adjustable timing gears. Port the intake manifold and throttle body to 70mm and run a 3.5" intake.

PM Wadzii or Urge and go from there.

Going to 250+ will mean lighter assembly on all parts. rods, pistons, valvetrain which means sleeving the block so you can rev to 10k. It can be done but what's your budget?

 

Going 250 + is going to require a larger crank, ie K24, billet 99,101 106 ect... For an all motor car lighter parts would benefit greatly. I don't see 250 coming from the 84mm stroke in all motor form from the F20C

 

Everyone says different things.
But more persons say its easier to get 250 from a K than an F...
why is that?

I'd like to stay within 10k on engine and gearbox.
Box meaning a nice LSD.

I do think that you can mod an engine and have it run reliably for a year. My B16 had 210whp and was reliable for a year- and that was alot of work.

Any builds here on a reputable F20 build?

 

Ever hear the saying there is no replacement for displacement? Well, in a nut shell the K24 has a 99 mm stroke. The F20 is 84mm and the F22 is 90mm.

with some decent head work on the K24 along with a set of cams and valve train with E85 or race fuel. no doubt in my mind 270+ reliable is achievable all motor. If you look K specific id look at the 2006-2008 K24a2. it has the stronger rods and 1mm larger intake valve from the factory.




you made 210 whp on B16a? or B16B?

 

Please read the OP. Nothing bigger then a 2.0

 

Agreed. Talk to the people that makes these motors all day. Inline pro, Wadzii, Urge are just a few names in the industry that have a lot of experience with this.

You'll find a lot more K series builds then F. This is why you'll see more good builds and results from the parts that work on K where as the F20 isn't as common so it can be a little more hit or miss.

 

One thing to keep in mind is FWD vs RWD power at the wheels. FWD has less drive train loss than RWD

A 250whp motor from a fwd civic would not make 250whp in a rwd s2000


its much much much much easier (and cheaper) to ship a f20 to Jamaica then it is to do a k20 swap reliably for track use

 

Also the other benefit of running a F20C is because you can share alot of the parts with the F22C.