NEW HERE-NEED HELP WITH MODS!
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NEW HERE-NEED HELP WITH MODS!
Hey Guys/Girls of the S2000 world.I have been watching posts for the last year or so and I want to thank all of you for helping me in my buy and all. Alot of my questions were answered just by coming to this site and now that I just purchased a 2008 S2000 AP2, I felt it was time to join. 
I have been in the works of getting this car for about 3 years now. I currently own a 95 Supra Twin Turbo with basic bolt ons and a stock auto trans. The Supra is my DD. But i intend on using the S2000 as a DD as well but want to tune it for time-attack, Touge etc.
Before buying the S2000 I purchased parts here and there whenever I could in the last year, Knowing I would buy a AP2. I found through research that N/A is not a easy route to go or practical as far as getting the most "bang" for your buck, because the F20 and F22 is already so efficient in creating power from the factory that bolt ons just dont cut it. I also learned of the differential problems.So I purchased basic bolt ons anyway and spent a LARGE amount of my money on the drivetrain components. I have not installed most of the parts as of yet and my bedroom looks like a performance candy store right now.
Heres the parts I have right now and I want any input whatsoever in what should my next $2000 dollars go into to get the best out of my S2000.
Installed So Far:
J'S Racing Tsuchinoko Carbon Air Induction System
Ignition Projects Coil Over Plug Plasma Set
NGK Platnium Plugs
J's Racing Oil-Pan W/Baffle
J's Racing Magnetic Differential Drain Plug
J's Racing Oil-Catch Can w/ Radiator Overflow Tank
Koyo Aluminum Radiator w/1.3 Cap
Spoon Thermostat
Mishimoto Oil-Cooler
KW Coilovers
Whiteline Control Arm Brace
H&R 25MM Wheel Spacers all around
Fenders Rolled
Stop-Tech Drilled Rotors w/Pads Set
Willwood Front Calipers
Ready To Install:
Inline Pro High Flow Fuel Rail (Black)
Injector Dynamics 715CC Injectors
AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator
AEM EMS 2
AEM High Flow Fuel Pump
Hasport 88 Motor Mounts
Drivetrain:
Spoon Large Capacity Differential Housing
J's Racing 4.4 Final Drive (Shot-Peened, Treated)
J's Racing Axle Spacers
J's Racing Spacer Bolts Set
J's Racing Shim kit for Final Drive
J's Racing Sleeve for Final Drive
J's Racing Bolts for Final Drive
Quaife ATB LSD
Drive Shaft Shop Stage 2 Axles
Drive Shaft Shop Carbon Drive Shaft
Exedy Stage 3 Clutch
Fidanza Lightweight Flywheel 8lb
Spoon Differential Mounts
If I install all of the above, Could I stop there and notice a significant increase in performance with near stock Horsepower?
This is going to be a daily driver and I just wanted to have a sense of security knowing that I could launch without worrying about stranding myself somewhere,and going to a time attack and getting good times without hurting any drivetrain components.I basically want to achieve "bulletproof" durability in the differential and any drivetrain components. Once I start adding power to the motor, I want to go with the same "bulletproof" concept. But, I am left scratching my head looking at my bank statements saying to myself, WTF is wrong with me!!!
Would this be enough durability to withstand a supercharger kit combined with all I have above?. I have $2000 to spend on additional parts. I have another $2500 to install all of the above and get a tune. I intend to have all of it installed in three weeks when I have a week vacation off from work, but if I am about to make a big mistake going this deep into the differential/Drivetrain please let me know!
Any input or any info on exhaust/Headers? Intake manifold? Throttle body? Cylinder Head components? Porting,Cams, Cam gears, Valves, Valve Springs, Retainers etc? OR SIMPLY WTH DO I DO FROM HERE!
PLEASE HELP ME WITH MY BUILD!!!
Sincerely, MikeyS2Thou
I have been in the works of getting this car for about 3 years now. I currently own a 95 Supra Twin Turbo with basic bolt ons and a stock auto trans. The Supra is my DD. But i intend on using the S2000 as a DD as well but want to tune it for time-attack, Touge etc.
Before buying the S2000 I purchased parts here and there whenever I could in the last year, Knowing I would buy a AP2. I found through research that N/A is not a easy route to go or practical as far as getting the most "bang" for your buck, because the F20 and F22 is already so efficient in creating power from the factory that bolt ons just dont cut it. I also learned of the differential problems.So I purchased basic bolt ons anyway and spent a LARGE amount of my money on the drivetrain components. I have not installed most of the parts as of yet and my bedroom looks like a performance candy store right now.
Heres the parts I have right now and I want any input whatsoever in what should my next $2000 dollars go into to get the best out of my S2000.
Installed So Far:
J'S Racing Tsuchinoko Carbon Air Induction System
Ignition Projects Coil Over Plug Plasma Set
NGK Platnium Plugs
J's Racing Oil-Pan W/Baffle
J's Racing Magnetic Differential Drain Plug
J's Racing Oil-Catch Can w/ Radiator Overflow Tank
Koyo Aluminum Radiator w/1.3 Cap
Spoon Thermostat
Mishimoto Oil-Cooler
KW Coilovers
Whiteline Control Arm Brace
H&R 25MM Wheel Spacers all around
Fenders Rolled
Stop-Tech Drilled Rotors w/Pads Set
Willwood Front Calipers
Ready To Install:
Inline Pro High Flow Fuel Rail (Black)
Injector Dynamics 715CC Injectors
AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator
AEM EMS 2
AEM High Flow Fuel Pump
Hasport 88 Motor Mounts
Drivetrain:
Spoon Large Capacity Differential Housing
J's Racing 4.4 Final Drive (Shot-Peened, Treated)
J's Racing Axle Spacers
J's Racing Spacer Bolts Set
J's Racing Shim kit for Final Drive
J's Racing Sleeve for Final Drive
J's Racing Bolts for Final Drive
Quaife ATB LSD
Drive Shaft Shop Stage 2 Axles
Drive Shaft Shop Carbon Drive Shaft
Exedy Stage 3 Clutch
Fidanza Lightweight Flywheel 8lb
Spoon Differential Mounts
If I install all of the above, Could I stop there and notice a significant increase in performance with near stock Horsepower?
This is going to be a daily driver and I just wanted to have a sense of security knowing that I could launch without worrying about stranding myself somewhere,and going to a time attack and getting good times without hurting any drivetrain components.I basically want to achieve "bulletproof" durability in the differential and any drivetrain components. Once I start adding power to the motor, I want to go with the same "bulletproof" concept. But, I am left scratching my head looking at my bank statements saying to myself, WTF is wrong with me!!!
Would this be enough durability to withstand a supercharger kit combined with all I have above?. I have $2000 to spend on additional parts. I have another $2500 to install all of the above and get a tune. I intend to have all of it installed in three weeks when I have a week vacation off from work, but if I am about to make a big mistake going this deep into the differential/Drivetrain please let me know!
Any input or any info on exhaust/Headers? Intake manifold? Throttle body? Cylinder Head components? Porting,Cams, Cam gears, Valves, Valve Springs, Retainers etc? OR SIMPLY WTH DO I DO FROM HERE!
PLEASE HELP ME WITH MY BUILD!!!
Sincerely, MikeyS2Thou
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I wish more people would ead my first post and give me alot more feedback because as of right now it looks like I am goin to go ahead with all of the drivetrain mods and fuel mods and hope for the best :/
Thank you for replying Sylvan. Later!
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I think the fuel stuff is worthless if you aren't going to using different cams, ITB's, or some kind of FI. The stock fuel system is fine if you aren't changing the other stuff. The stage 3 clutch is also a waste. It is just going to make it a pain to drive every day.
As far as "will there be a significant increase in performance with this stuff." That will really depend on what your defination of increase in performance is. You won't have that much more wheel HP if any more at all. In fact I don't see a test pipe listed in your mod list which provides the biggest gain of HP of any bolt on. The suspension stuff always helps but I see no mention of what tires you plan to run which is makes a huge difference. I think you jumped the gun here buying all these parts before getting used to the car. You could have had an SOS supercharger or something similar with suspension and good tires and had a much faster car than the current list of parts. Anyways good luck with the build.
As far as "will there be a significant increase in performance with this stuff." That will really depend on what your defination of increase in performance is. You won't have that much more wheel HP if any more at all. In fact I don't see a test pipe listed in your mod list which provides the biggest gain of HP of any bolt on. The suspension stuff always helps but I see no mention of what tires you plan to run which is makes a huge difference. I think you jumped the gun here buying all these parts before getting used to the car. You could have had an SOS supercharger or something similar with suspension and good tires and had a much faster car than the current list of parts. Anyways good luck with the build.
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I think the fuel stuff is worthless if you aren't going to using different cams, ITB's, or some kind of FI. The stock fuel system is fine if you aren't changing the other stuff. The stage 3 clutch is also a waste. It is just going to make it a pain to drive every day.
As far as "will there be a significant increase in performance with this stuff." That will really depend on what your defination of increase in performance is. You won't have that much more wheel HP if any more at all. In fact I don't see a test pipe listed in your mod list which provides the biggest gain of HP of any bolt on. The suspension stuff always helps but I see no mention of what tires you plan to run which is makes a huge difference. I think you jumped the gun here buying all these parts before getting used to the car. You could have had an SOS supercharger or something similar with suspension and good tires and had a much faster car than the current list of parts. Anyways good luck with the build.
As far as "will there be a significant increase in performance with this stuff." That will really depend on what your defination of increase in performance is. You won't have that much more wheel HP if any more at all. In fact I don't see a test pipe listed in your mod list which provides the biggest gain of HP of any bolt on. The suspension stuff always helps but I see no mention of what tires you plan to run which is makes a huge difference. I think you jumped the gun here buying all these parts before getting used to the car. You could have had an SOS supercharger or something similar with suspension and good tires and had a much faster car than the current list of parts. Anyways good luck with the build.
Manga Spawn,
I havent purchased any mods as far as exhaust/tp/Headers as of yet because I wanted to know what was the best I can get? I was going to buy a Titanium J's Racing Catback and Headers, but want a test pipe that has the o2 sensor bung to fix the CEL. I am by no means finished with the build with my parts I listed above. Any input would help. I am aiming to go supercharged. So fuel components wll help then? and even if I didnt go with FI.. With a tune and the fuel components it wouldnt help any being N/A??... The tires im running are Nitto NT-01's
Thank you for your help.
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For an 08 your #1 mod should be Flashpro and have a reputable tuner (Gernby is in McKinney) tune your set up to maximize the power.
I run DEs ar Motorsport Ranch Cresson and ECR and the stock set up is fine until you get a feel for the car. I ended up with suspension mods only and have been reliable.
I think if you are going to complete at a high level then many of your mods make sense, but it just seems like you would want to get a feel for the car before so you know if the after is really a better situation.
I run DEs ar Motorsport Ranch Cresson and ECR and the stock set up is fine until you get a feel for the car. I ended up with suspension mods only and have been reliable.
I think if you are going to complete at a high level then many of your mods make sense, but it just seems like you would want to get a feel for the car before so you know if the after is really a better situation.
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Originally Posted by Manga_Spawn' timestamp='1381788929' post='22827438
I think the fuel stuff is worthless if you aren't going to using different cams, ITB's, or some kind of FI. The stock fuel system is fine if you aren't changing the other stuff. The stage 3 clutch is also a waste. It is just going to make it a pain to drive every day.
As far as "will there be a significant increase in performance with this stuff." That will really depend on what your defination of increase in performance is. You won't have that much more wheel HP if any more at all. In fact I don't see a test pipe listed in your mod list which provides the biggest gain of HP of any bolt on. The suspension stuff always helps but I see no mention of what tires you plan to run which is makes a huge difference. I think you jumped the gun here buying all these parts before getting used to the car. You could have had an SOS supercharger or something similar with suspension and good tires and had a much faster car than the current list of parts. Anyways good luck with the build.
As far as "will there be a significant increase in performance with this stuff." That will really depend on what your defination of increase in performance is. You won't have that much more wheel HP if any more at all. In fact I don't see a test pipe listed in your mod list which provides the biggest gain of HP of any bolt on. The suspension stuff always helps but I see no mention of what tires you plan to run which is makes a huge difference. I think you jumped the gun here buying all these parts before getting used to the car. You could have had an SOS supercharger or something similar with suspension and good tires and had a much faster car than the current list of parts. Anyways good luck with the build.
Manga Spawn,
I havent purchased any mods as far as exhaust/tp/Headers as of yet because I wanted to know what was the best I can get? I was going to buy a Titanium J's Racing Catback and Headers, but want a test pipe that has the o2 sensor bung to fix the CEL. I am by no means finished with the build with my parts I listed above. Any input would help. I am aiming to go supercharged. So fuel components wll help then? and even if I didnt go with FI.. With a tune and the fuel components it wouldnt help any being N/A??... The tires im running are Nitto NT-01's
Thank you for your help.
Visit the Racing and COmpetition forum as the guys who run Honda Challenge series in CA should be able to provide solid build advice.
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For an 08 your #1 mod should be Flashpro and have a reputable tuner (Gernby is in McKinney) tune your set up to maximize the power.
I run DEs ar Motorsport Ranch Cresson and ECR and the stock set up is fine until you get a feel for the car. I ended up with suspension mods only and have been reliable.
I think if you are going to complete at a high level then many of your mods make sense, but it just seems like you would want to get a feel for the car before so you know if the after is really a better situation.
I run DEs ar Motorsport Ranch Cresson and ECR and the stock set up is fine until you get a feel for the car. I ended up with suspension mods only and have been reliable.
I think if you are going to complete at a high level then many of your mods make sense, but it just seems like you would want to get a feel for the car before so you know if the after is really a better situation.
Thank you so much for taking the time to read my post and giving me some good advice. BUT the problem is I had a good chunk of money that I saved and I already purchased a AEM EMS V2, will the AEM give me the benefits that flashpro could? The reason why I bought the AEM was because I confused/Mixed up the AP1 Hondata system requiring sensors being changed and opening up the cams etc, so i figured this would do the same tuning wise without all that extra work.As far as getting a feel for the car as is, I drove it like hell when bone stock, then in one day I added Intake and misc other things and now I am totally use to it and have pushed it to its limits and I know the car really well as it sits. I figured just by upgrading all the drivetrain components, I would shed alot of weight, Increase acceleration by the shorter gears distributing power differently and revving much quicker, and with the LSD axles, etc, I will be able to really hit turns and tune the suspension in. Heres my list of parts I installed and parts that are sitting in my bedroom.
Installed So Far:
J'S Racing Tsuchinoko Carbon Air Induction System
Ignition Projects Coil Over Plug Plasma Set
NGK Platnium Plugs
J's Racing Oil-Pan W/Baffle
J's Racing Magnetic Differential Drain Plug
J's Racing Oil-Catch Can w/ Radiator Overflow Tank
Koyo Aluminum Radiator w/1.3 Cap
Spoon Thermostat
Mishimoto Oil-Cooler
KW Coilovers
Whiteline Control Arm Brace
H&R 25MM Wheel Spacers all around
Fenders Rolled
Stop-Tech Drilled Rotors w/Pads Set
Willwood Front Calipers
Ready To Install:
Inline Pro High Flow Fuel Rail (Black)
Injector Dynamics 715CC Injectors
AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator
AEM EMS 2
AEM High Flow Fuel Pump
Hasport 88 Motor Mounts
Drivetrain:
Spoon Large Capacity Differential Housing
J's Racing 4.4 Final Drive (Shot-Peened, Treated)
J's Racing Axle Spacers
J's Racing Spacer Bolts Set
J's Racing Shim kit for Final Drive
J's Racing Sleeve for Final Drive
J's Racing Bolts for Final Drive
Quaife ATB LSD
Drive Shaft Shop Stage 2 Axles
Drive Shaft Shop Carbon Drive Shaft
Exedy Stage 3 Clutch
Fidanza Lightweight Flywheel 8lb
Spoon Differential Mounts
I Purchased all of the parts listed above. I spent over 12 Grand already. I have a good amount to go another 10k deep, but I am stopping myself from spending much more than $4500. The $2500 out of that will be to get everything installed and a tune, The other 2k for a good exhaust, Test Pipe, and maybe a header? I know how this goes though. I am going to need to keep pumping more and more and before I know it I am going to be so deep into it. With my Supra, I really showed restraint and went BPU++, Eibach Springs and wheels and tires and that was it, I left her alone. But with the S2000 if I am passed the point of no return, Then so be it, but I want to get it done correctly without wasting anything, My biggest fear is destroying the differential.
So considering what I have bought already, maybe I can sell some of the unneeded parts that will be a waste on my build and sell it to you guys or anybody else in this forum for much much cheaper for a quick turn around so I can put that money into things I am really needing. I dont know, I am at a lost and I have no idea about the Drive By Wire. I thought I could convert that or no?
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I am very interested in "puddymod". How can I get in touch with him??... The parts I already purchased will he use those parts as well? I have 4.4 Gears, DSS Axles, DSS Driveshaft, Spoon Large Capacity Housing, Axle Spacers, Quaife LSD, Spoon Mounts, J's Sleeve and shims.. Will all this be worthless parts I will have to sell off? or will puddymod use these parts in building my differential?.. Let me know, thanx for the advice/Input.