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As you have a DBW 08, I would recommend selling the EMS and getting the Flashpro. The Flashpro is far easier to use and will cost a lot less. If you can get your money back out of the EMS, the Flashpro is 500-600, and Gernby is local,(he is one of the best Flashpro tuners).
I have his Gernpipe midpipe which is an awesome product. You have a nice list of items, but do some real searching and hit up the CA Honda CHallenge guys and they should be able to give you better advice on built block and internals.
Good luck and hope to see you at some of the local tracks.
I instruct for Apex Driving Academy at MSR, so will hope to see you soon. A few other guys who instruct in the area are DavidNYC and Chris S
pmptx,
Thank you so much for taking the time to read my post and giving me some good advice. BUT the problem is I had a good chunk of money that I saved and I already purchased a AEM EMS V2, will the AEM give me the benefits that flashpro could? The reason why I bought the AEM was because I confused/Mixed up the AP1 Hondata system requiring sensors being changed and opening up the cams etc, so i figured this would do the same tuning wise without all that extra work.As far as getting a feel for the car as is, I drove it like hell when bone stock, then in one day I added Intake and misc other things and now I am totally use to it and have pushed it to its limits and I know the car really well as it sits. I figured just by upgrading all the drivetrain components, I would shed alot of weight, Increase acceleration by the shorter gears distributing power differently and revving much quicker, and with the LSD axles, etc, I will be able to really hit turns and tune the suspension in. Heres my list of parts I installed and parts that are sitting in my bedroom.
Installed So Far:
J'S Racing Tsuchinoko Carbon Air Induction System
Ignition Projects Coil Over Plug Plasma Set
NGK Platnium Plugs
J's Racing Oil-Pan W/Baffle
J's Racing Magnetic Differential Drain Plug
J's Racing Oil-Catch Can w/ Radiator Overflow Tank
Koyo Aluminum Radiator w/1.3 Cap
Spoon Thermostat
Mishimoto Oil-Cooler
KW Coilovers
Whiteline Control Arm Brace
H&R 25MM Wheel Spacers all around
Fenders Rolled
Stop-Tech Drilled Rotors w/Pads Set
Willwood Front Calipers
Ready To Install:
Inline Pro High Flow Fuel Rail (Black)
Injector Dynamics 715CC Injectors
AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator
AEM EMS 2
AEM High Flow Fuel Pump
Hasport 88 Motor Mounts
Drivetrain:
Spoon Large Capacity Differential Housing
J's Racing 4.4 Final Drive (Shot-Peened, Treated)
J's Racing Axle Spacers
J's Racing Spacer Bolts Set
J's Racing Shim kit for Final Drive
J's Racing Sleeve for Final Drive
J's Racing Bolts for Final Drive
Quaife ATB LSD
Drive Shaft Shop Stage 2 Axles
Drive Shaft Shop Carbon Drive Shaft
Exedy Stage 3 Clutch
Fidanza Lightweight Flywheel 8lb
Spoon Differential Mounts
I Purchased all of the parts listed above. I spent over 12 Grand already. I have a good amount to go another 10k deep, but I am stopping myself from spending much more than $4500. The $2500 out of that will be to get everything installed and a tune, The other 2k for a good exhaust, Test Pipe, and maybe a header? I know how this goes though. I am going to need to keep pumping more and more and before I know it I am going to be so deep into it. With my Supra, I really showed restraint and went BPU++, Eibach Springs and wheels and tires and that was it, I left her alone. But with the S2000 if I am passed the point of no return, Then so be it, but I want to get it done correctly without wasting anything, My biggest fear is destroying the differential.
So considering what I have bought already, maybe I can sell some of the unneeded parts that will be a waste on my build and sell it to you guys or anybody else in this forum for much much cheaper for a quick turn around so I can put that money into things I am really needing. I dont know, I am at a lost and I have no idea about the Drive By Wire. I thought I could convert that or no?
I have his Gernpipe midpipe which is an awesome product. You have a nice list of items, but do some real searching and hit up the CA Honda CHallenge guys and they should be able to give you better advice on built block and internals.
Good luck and hope to see you at some of the local tracks.
I instruct for Apex Driving Academy at MSR, so will hope to see you soon. A few other guys who instruct in the area are DavidNYC and Chris S
Originally Posted by pmptx' timestamp='1381792136' post='22827500
For an 08 your #1 mod should be Flashpro and have a reputable tuner (Gernby is in McKinney) tune your set up to maximize the power.
I run DEs ar Motorsport Ranch Cresson and ECR and the stock set up is fine until you get a feel for the car. I ended up with suspension mods only and have been reliable.
I think if you are going to complete at a high level then many of your mods make sense, but it just seems like you would want to get a feel for the car before so you know if the after is really a better situation.
I run DEs ar Motorsport Ranch Cresson and ECR and the stock set up is fine until you get a feel for the car. I ended up with suspension mods only and have been reliable.
I think if you are going to complete at a high level then many of your mods make sense, but it just seems like you would want to get a feel for the car before so you know if the after is really a better situation.
Thank you so much for taking the time to read my post and giving me some good advice. BUT the problem is I had a good chunk of money that I saved and I already purchased a AEM EMS V2, will the AEM give me the benefits that flashpro could? The reason why I bought the AEM was because I confused/Mixed up the AP1 Hondata system requiring sensors being changed and opening up the cams etc, so i figured this would do the same tuning wise without all that extra work.As far as getting a feel for the car as is, I drove it like hell when bone stock, then in one day I added Intake and misc other things and now I am totally use to it and have pushed it to its limits and I know the car really well as it sits. I figured just by upgrading all the drivetrain components, I would shed alot of weight, Increase acceleration by the shorter gears distributing power differently and revving much quicker, and with the LSD axles, etc, I will be able to really hit turns and tune the suspension in. Heres my list of parts I installed and parts that are sitting in my bedroom.
Installed So Far:
J'S Racing Tsuchinoko Carbon Air Induction System
Ignition Projects Coil Over Plug Plasma Set
NGK Platnium Plugs
J's Racing Oil-Pan W/Baffle
J's Racing Magnetic Differential Drain Plug
J's Racing Oil-Catch Can w/ Radiator Overflow Tank
Koyo Aluminum Radiator w/1.3 Cap
Spoon Thermostat
Mishimoto Oil-Cooler
KW Coilovers
Whiteline Control Arm Brace
H&R 25MM Wheel Spacers all around
Fenders Rolled
Stop-Tech Drilled Rotors w/Pads Set
Willwood Front Calipers
Ready To Install:
Inline Pro High Flow Fuel Rail (Black)
Injector Dynamics 715CC Injectors
AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator
AEM EMS 2
AEM High Flow Fuel Pump
Hasport 88 Motor Mounts
Drivetrain:
Spoon Large Capacity Differential Housing
J's Racing 4.4 Final Drive (Shot-Peened, Treated)
J's Racing Axle Spacers
J's Racing Spacer Bolts Set
J's Racing Shim kit for Final Drive
J's Racing Sleeve for Final Drive
J's Racing Bolts for Final Drive
Quaife ATB LSD
Drive Shaft Shop Stage 2 Axles
Drive Shaft Shop Carbon Drive Shaft
Exedy Stage 3 Clutch
Fidanza Lightweight Flywheel 8lb
Spoon Differential Mounts
I Purchased all of the parts listed above. I spent over 12 Grand already. I have a good amount to go another 10k deep, but I am stopping myself from spending much more than $4500. The $2500 out of that will be to get everything installed and a tune, The other 2k for a good exhaust, Test Pipe, and maybe a header? I know how this goes though. I am going to need to keep pumping more and more and before I know it I am going to be so deep into it. With my Supra, I really showed restraint and went BPU++, Eibach Springs and wheels and tires and that was it, I left her alone. But with the S2000 if I am passed the point of no return, Then so be it, but I want to get it done correctly without wasting anything, My biggest fear is destroying the differential.
So considering what I have bought already, maybe I can sell some of the unneeded parts that will be a waste on my build and sell it to you guys or anybody else in this forum for much much cheaper for a quick turn around so I can put that money into things I am really needing. I dont know, I am at a lost and I have no idea about the Drive By Wire. I thought I could convert that or no?
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The only power mods you have so far listed it seems is intake and aem ems for a tune. All those fuel mods are pointless without boost. With current mods you'd probably pick up maybe 10-15 hp at most.
I agree with others. Sell the aem ems and get flashpro for dbw.
I agree with others. Sell the aem ems and get flashpro for dbw.
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The other benefit of flash rpo is you will pass emissions if that is a concern where you live. Aem won't pass because the obd2 port doesn't work with aem.
The fuel mods are worthless without FI or further NA build like cams or striker or something other than bolt ons. If you are planning a supercharger then keep it but don't bother installing it yet.
For the test pipe buy a berk with the cel fix. Their fix works the best though with 06+ they tend to be more sensitive and that's where flashpro fixes the issue.
"Best exhaust is also subjective. You want the largest diameter pipe with little restriction. Hit up gernby about his exhaust if he is going to tune you as well.
Finally send the diff to puddy. Also I would reconsider the stage 3 clutch. Sell it and wait till you go boost and get one of the twin disk ones of you have any plans of driving this thing regularly.
The fuel mods are worthless without FI or further NA build like cams or striker or something other than bolt ons. If you are planning a supercharger then keep it but don't bother installing it yet.
For the test pipe buy a berk with the cel fix. Their fix works the best though with 06+ they tend to be more sensitive and that's where flashpro fixes the issue.
"Best exhaust is also subjective. You want the largest diameter pipe with little restriction. Hit up gernby about his exhaust if he is going to tune you as well.
Finally send the diff to puddy. Also I would reconsider the stage 3 clutch. Sell it and wait till you go boost and get one of the twin disk ones of you have any plans of driving this thing regularly.
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The parts you have installed will do you well with a good tuner.
I would highly recommend saving some money for tires (R888 or Neova AD08) to really compliment your suspensions. Of course an agressive alignment will be much help at the track with the tires and suspension.
Not sure what pads you're running but a good set of pads (Proj Mu, Cobalt, etc) with proper bed-in will definitely shave off some time.
Reduce the weight and you should be good to go on your Time Attack journey. Enjoy and let us know how you do.
p.s. I understand this is a DD but the above mods will also be good for "touge"/canyon carving (which I do not condone).
I would highly recommend saving some money for tires (R888 or Neova AD08) to really compliment your suspensions. Of course an agressive alignment will be much help at the track with the tires and suspension.
Not sure what pads you're running but a good set of pads (Proj Mu, Cobalt, etc) with proper bed-in will definitely shave off some time.
Reduce the weight and you should be good to go on your Time Attack journey. Enjoy and let us know how you do.
p.s. I understand this is a DD but the above mods will also be good for "touge"/canyon carving (which I do not condone).
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If you are interested in lap times and backroad driveability, your focus should be suspension, geometry, and tires, then wing/splitter, then power. In that order. The stock clutch and fuel system are good to 300 HP. The diff will hold up fine if you don't "launch," which of course is not part of lap times or backroad driving.
Of your listed mods, these are the only ones you have that will lower your lap times, in order:
Nittos
KW Coilovers (but which ones?)
LSD
flywheel
driveshaft
J's intake
All the other mods will have zero effect on the performance of the car, with the exception of the final drive, which will likely make the car slower around a road course. In terms of acceleration, your car will not be noticeably quicker than a bone-stock car.
If you are starting from scratch and your goal is lap times, other than the "driver" mod, here's what you want, in rough order:
Track brake pads and fluid
High quality suspension (Ohlins, Penske, KW Clubsports, etc)
Alignment (max caster, max camber, front camber/roll-center adjusters)
9" non-staggered wheels with 255 tires
If R-comp tires, baffled oil pan
Large wing (APR 300 or similar)
Large splitter (WASP or similar)
Brake ducts
Weight strip (interior, A/C, etc)
Flashpro, test pipe, tune.
Things you do not need unless you are going FI, and even then probably not:
Braces
Cooling
Fuel
Drivetrain
Ignition
big brake kit
I think it's worth noting that the number of people who seriously track their S2000s and run FI could probably be counted on one hand and have outrageous budgets.
Here's the guide you want: http://robrobinette.com/S2000Info.htm.
Good luck! With the funds you get from selling your unnecessary parts, you can turn your S2000 into a real track demon!
Of your listed mods, these are the only ones you have that will lower your lap times, in order:
Nittos
KW Coilovers (but which ones?)
LSD
flywheel
driveshaft
J's intake
All the other mods will have zero effect on the performance of the car, with the exception of the final drive, which will likely make the car slower around a road course. In terms of acceleration, your car will not be noticeably quicker than a bone-stock car.
If you are starting from scratch and your goal is lap times, other than the "driver" mod, here's what you want, in rough order:
Track brake pads and fluid
High quality suspension (Ohlins, Penske, KW Clubsports, etc)
Alignment (max caster, max camber, front camber/roll-center adjusters)
9" non-staggered wheels with 255 tires
If R-comp tires, baffled oil pan
Large wing (APR 300 or similar)
Large splitter (WASP or similar)
Brake ducts
Weight strip (interior, A/C, etc)
Flashpro, test pipe, tune.
Things you do not need unless you are going FI, and even then probably not:
Braces
Cooling
Fuel
Drivetrain
Ignition
big brake kit
I think it's worth noting that the number of people who seriously track their S2000s and run FI could probably be counted on one hand and have outrageous budgets.
Here's the guide you want: http://robrobinette.com/S2000Info.htm.
Good luck! With the funds you get from selling your unnecessary parts, you can turn your S2000 into a real track demon!
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If you are interested in lap times and backroad driveability, your focus should be suspension, geometry, and tires, then wing/splitter, then power. In that order. The stock clutch and fuel system are good to 300 HP. The diff will hold up fine if you don't "launch," which of course is not part of lap times or backroad driving.
Of your listed mods, these are the only ones you have that will lower your lap times, in order:
Nittos
KW Coilovers (but which ones?)
LSD
flywheel
driveshaft
J's intake
All the other mods will have zero effect on the performance of the car, with the exception of the final drive, which will likely make the car slower around a road course. In terms of acceleration, your car will not be noticeably quicker than a bone-stock car.
If you are starting from scratch and your goal is lap times, other than the "driver" mod, here's what you want, in rough order:
Track brake pads and fluid
High quality suspension (Ohlins, Penske, KW Clubsports, etc)
Alignment (max caster, max camber, front camber/roll-center adjusters)
9" non-staggered wheels with 255 tires
If R-comp tires, baffled oil pan
Large wing (APR 300 or similar)
Large splitter (WASP or similar)
Brake ducts
Weight strip (interior, A/C, etc)
Flashpro, test pipe, tune.
Things you do not need unless you are going FI, and even then probably not:
Braces
Cooling
Fuel
Drivetrain
Ignition
big brake kit
I think it's worth noting that the number of people who seriously track their S2000s and run FI could probably be counted on one hand and have outrageous budgets.
Here's the guide you want: http://robrobinette.com/S2000Info.htm.
Good luck! With the funds you get from selling your unnecessary parts, you can turn your S2000 into a real track demon!
Of your listed mods, these are the only ones you have that will lower your lap times, in order:
Nittos
KW Coilovers (but which ones?)
LSD
flywheel
driveshaft
J's intake
All the other mods will have zero effect on the performance of the car, with the exception of the final drive, which will likely make the car slower around a road course. In terms of acceleration, your car will not be noticeably quicker than a bone-stock car.
If you are starting from scratch and your goal is lap times, other than the "driver" mod, here's what you want, in rough order:
Track brake pads and fluid
High quality suspension (Ohlins, Penske, KW Clubsports, etc)
Alignment (max caster, max camber, front camber/roll-center adjusters)
9" non-staggered wheels with 255 tires
If R-comp tires, baffled oil pan
Large wing (APR 300 or similar)
Large splitter (WASP or similar)
Brake ducts
Weight strip (interior, A/C, etc)
Flashpro, test pipe, tune.
Things you do not need unless you are going FI, and even then probably not:
Braces
Cooling
Fuel
Drivetrain
Ignition
big brake kit
I think it's worth noting that the number of people who seriously track their S2000s and run FI could probably be counted on one hand and have outrageous budgets.
Here's the guide you want: http://robrobinette.com/S2000Info.htm.
Good luck! With the funds you get from selling your unnecessary parts, you can turn your S2000 into a real track demon!
Hey to all of you.. "pmptx" "thomasbrain" "kaotik25" "manga_spawn" "moddiction"
I appreciate all of your guys imput with my build. I have bought the flashpro and its on its way, I will get intouch with Gernby and puddy to complete everything. pmptx I am really interested in meeting up with you at MSR and getting some lessons from you once I have the car together in the next couple of weeks or so. I also will bring my Supra down there and see how it does on the track. I cant thank all of you enough for the input and advice. It helped me more than you know and it set me in the right direction. I appreciate all of it. Thank you again.. Mikey
Best of luck with the build!
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