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Old May 1, 2013 | 12:04 PM
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In the next coming months I am thinking about doing some modifications to my 2001 s2000. I bought it a couple of weeks ago and it’s completely stock. I have lots of ideas for what I want to do but the more I read on the forums the more confused it get.
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Is the invidia n1 exhaust really that loud? My last car was very loud so I think I can handle it but I want to be sure.

I want to run 215 on the front and 245 on the back with around a 50 offset depending on which rims I go with. If I lower the car an inch will it rub?

Do lowering springs have any negative effects on the handling?

I have a track day at road Atlanta coming up and I want to get the most out of my car as I can. Are there any modifications that I should do for that?
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Old May 1, 2013 | 12:11 PM
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1) I don’t know first-hand but everyone seems to think that the N1 is very loud. Why would you want to deal with it? Just buy an exhaust that isn't loud.

2) Rim size/width? 215 and 245 are stock AP2 sizes so look into those rims for a quick upgrade.

3) Coilovers are better.

4) See number 3. And get good tires. Dunlop ZII's (and their predecessor) are a favorite among members on this board.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 12:20 PM
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if your stock shocks are still good, i'd suggest tracking with the stock suspension first. the OE suspension is very good and will probably be much better than an OE shock/lowering spring combo or a cheapy coilover setup. A lot of guys spend $1500+ on coilovers to get a decent set capable of the track. Most of the coilovers cheaper than that are used mainly for street. There are of course exceptions here and there..
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Old May 1, 2013 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris_Lum
if your stock shocks are still good, i'd suggest tracking with the stock suspension first. the OE suspension is very good and will probably be much better than an OE shock/lowering spring combo or a cheapy coilover setup. A lot of guys spend $1500+ on coilovers to get a decent set capable of the track. Most of the coilovers cheaper than that are used mainly for street. There are of course exceptions here and there..
BC type BR's come to mind, just for perspective. Megan Tracks as well, though they have extremely harsh ride for daily use.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gbrown15
Is the invidia n1 exhaust really that loud? My last car was very loud so I think I can handle it but I want to be sure.
Don't. The exhaust isn't going to make much more hp, if any, and is just more annoying for everyone who lives around you. If you really need the car to be louder, UK Mod.

I want to run 215 on the front and 245 on the back with around a 50 offset depending on which rims I go with. If I lower the car an inch will it rub?
Nope. 255 tires with 45 offset will rub a little. Go with a non-staggered set up though, much more preferred.

Do lowering springs have any negative effects on the handling?
Depends, but generally no. I've run Eibach pro-kit springs on OEM shocks for something like 70K miles, shocks are still in good condition. Eibach springs had a slightly higher spring rate than the MY04 springs, and didn't slam it on the tires... two things I was looking for, a slightly aggressive stance with better spring rates, without being too harsh of a ride.

About coilovers, unless you can corner-balance or have a shop that can do it and can tune your suspension, don't go coilovers. Most people make their cars handle worse when they switch to coilovers, especially crap brands... this is usually due to bad spring rates and poor suspension tuning.

I have a track day at road Atlanta coming up and I want to get the most out of my car as I can. Are there any modifications that I should do for that?
Nothing. Leave it stock, make sure you have plenty of pad life, maybe bring an extra set of rotors, change your oil, and enjoy the car stock. Learn to drive the car before you mod.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 01:23 PM
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What is the UK mod?
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Old May 1, 2013 | 01:31 PM
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My neighbors already hate me so i dont have to worry about that haha. The only reason im looking at the N1 is because I found a used one online for very cheap. Aslo should i run stock brake pads or get some higher performance ones?
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Old May 1, 2013 | 07:58 PM
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The n1 is crap just like everything invidia makes. Don't buy it. Wait and get a good quality exhaust. Also wait and go ride in some other s2000's with an exhaust.

Wait and buy coilovers. More adjustable better performance and you will want them eventually if you buy springs.

Just roll the fenders. It will save you from worrying about your fenders.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Manga_Spawn
More adjustable better performance and you will want them eventually if you buy springs.
Not if you don't know what you're doing... which is like 80% of those who buy coilovers.
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Old May 2, 2013 | 05:19 AM
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1) Invidia N1 is garbage. It sounds like a civic with a fart can. There is a reason people sell them so cheap second hand.
2) Need more information on the wheels. Mainly what are the sizes. If they are 17x7.5 +50 and 17x8.5+50- you will be fine. If they are 17x8+50 and 17x9+50- the fronts will be fine, and the rears should be fine with a uk spec alignment (it is a slightly more aggressive alignment that runs a little more negative camber, along with other settings)
3) As others have said, good quality coilovers are a better alternative, but not everyone wants to spend that kind of money. If you are going to do springs, I would recommend the eibachs or swift spec r. How many miles are on your shocks? If they are high mileage, it would be good to replace them. If you have to replace the shocks and buy springs, it would be worth it to spend a few hundred to get decent coilovers. The cheapest ones I will recommend are the BC Racing and the Bilstien PSS, or look for a low mileage set of used coilovers.
4) Get an alignment, check over your brakes to ensure you have adequate life left on them, check tires, if they are getting low on tread, or crap tires, replace with a a quality set of tires. Do a complete fluid change- oil, transmission, differential, coolant, brake and clutch fluid. If you plan to do track or autocross events regularly, it would be a good idea to use a performance based brake fluid for the brakes and clutch, such as ate superblue or motul 600. Check the condition of the air filter, spark plugs, hoses and serpentine belt. If anything looks like it may need to be replaced shortly, do it before the track event.
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