Spoon Engine Mounts - Liquid Filled like OEM?
10-17-2018, 01:16 AM
#11
Thread Starter
Secondly the liquid is brown-ish in colour and yes you would have noticed residue on the mounts as that liquid would run out of the tops of the mounts. In your case its possible that the mounts were replaced with aftermarket liquid-free ones before you bought the car?
10-18-2018, 08:25 AM
#12
My vote would be stock mounts and an etd. Best of both worlds. Allows factory level of NVH vibe control, yet limits engine movement for more direct engine to wheels power delivery. Side benefit of less engine movement, better shift feel.
10-18-2018, 08:36 AM
#13
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I found one of my OEM mounts was cracked open when I unbolted it to install a header. Spilled what looked like fresh oil on my garage floor. I replaced them with the spoon mounts because the spoon mounts came as the full set of engine and trans mounts and also came with a reinforced trans mount that isn't really available any other way (well ASM makes one but it costs more than the entire mount kit from spoon) and at the price point given everything included the spoon set isn't that much more. Never run an ETD but not sure it would work with my ASM strut bar so I think the spoon mounts are a good upgrade. The vibration is maybe a little more noticeable than OEM then again I had a blown OEM mount so sort of hard to compare apples to apples. My car isn't a daily either so when I do drive it having a little more vibration isn't something that would annoy me.
10-18-2018, 10:08 PM
#14
Thread Starter
This is my line of thought but when I saw these Spoon mounts I got to thinking that maybe this is a good idea in the long run. Maybe what I'll do is grab a Seeker ETD and run it to see what difference it makes to my setup with worn OEM mounts (right side one anyway). If its impossible to run the ETD with my Vortech blower kit next year even with a modified VTEC sandwich plate that keeps the solenoid directly on the head then I may just have to leave the ETD aside and get the Spoon mounts kit...
10-18-2018, 10:12 PM
#15
Thread Starter
I found one of my OEM mounts was cracked open when I unbolted it to install a header. Spilled what looked like fresh oil on my garage floor. I replaced them with the spoon mounts because the spoon mounts came as the full set of engine and trans mounts and also came with a reinforced trans mount that isn't really available any other way (well ASM makes one but it costs more than the entire mount kit from spoon) and at the price point given everything included the spoon set isn't that much more. Never run an ETD but not sure it would work with my ASM strut bar so I think the spoon mounts are a good upgrade. The vibration is maybe a little more noticeable than OEM then again I had a blown OEM mount so sort of hard to compare apples to apples. My car isn't a daily either so when I do drive it having a little more vibration isn't something that would annoy me.
How does your car feel (acceleration, power transfer to the wheels, etc) with your Spoon mounts compared to OEM? Do you feel the vibration mainly at idle or even when accelerating hard?
10-19-2018, 04:30 AM
#16
Lots of talk about that reinforced transmission mount, what does it actually do except ad some weight?
Sure it's stronger and should minimize any flex but you still got rubber in between and I think that cancels out that beefed up steel pretty well.
Sure it's stronger and should minimize any flex but you still got rubber in between and I think that cancels out that beefed up steel pretty well.
10-19-2018, 09:54 AM
#17
Registered User
Stick with the OEM mounts. The engineers used hydromounts for a reason, to add system damping in the vertical direction.
The fluid you see is just a glycol blend. Stiffer mounts and/or the addition of an ETD will negatively impact NVH.
The S has a typical longitudinal (RWD) mount system which is designed to react to torque about the torque roll axis, in the vertical direction.
Adding an ETD messes with the balance and creates an over-determined system, it also adds an additional transfer path for vibrations.
The fluid you see is just a glycol blend. Stiffer mounts and/or the addition of an ETD will negatively impact NVH.
The S has a typical longitudinal (RWD) mount system which is designed to react to torque about the torque roll axis, in the vertical direction.
Adding an ETD messes with the balance and creates an over-determined system, it also adds an additional transfer path for vibrations.
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10-19-2018, 12:00 PM
#18
). It took a few hundred miles to break in, but once broken in you can't tell much of a difference- aside from the increased performance. Like mentioned previously about the Spoon mounts, there is a slight vibration when sitting at a stop light and have the a/c blasting. The shifting is much more crisp. If you are upgrading mounts, Spoon or Mugen are the way to go.
10-19-2018, 12:15 PM
#19
I found one of my OEM mounts was cracked open when I unbolted it to install a header. Spilled what looked like fresh oil on my garage floor. I replaced them with the spoon mounts because the spoon mounts came as the full set of engine and trans mounts and also came with a reinforced trans mount that isn't really available any other way (well ASM makes one but it costs more than the entire mount kit from spoon) and at the price point given everything included the spoon set isn't that much more. Never run an ETD but not sure it would work with my ASM strut bar so I think the spoon mounts are a good upgrade. The vibration is maybe a little more noticeable than OEM then again I had a blown OEM mount so sort of hard to compare apples to apples. My car isn't a daily either so when I do drive it having a little more vibration isn't something that would annoy me.
Innovative doesn't interest me at all. I had their 75a engine and trans mounts and hated all the NVH from it.
10-20-2018, 10:21 PM
#20
Stick with the OEM mounts. The engineers used hydromounts for a reason, to add system damping in the vertical direction.
The fluid you see is just a glycol blend. Stiffer mounts and/or the addition of an ETD will negatively impact NVH.
The S has a typical longitudinal (RWD) mount system which is designed to react to torque about the torque roll axis, in the vertical direction.
Adding an ETD messes with the balance and creates an over-determined system, it also adds an additional transfer path for vibrations.
The fluid you see is just a glycol blend. Stiffer mounts and/or the addition of an ETD will negatively impact NVH.
The S has a typical longitudinal (RWD) mount system which is designed to react to torque about the torque roll axis, in the vertical direction.
Adding an ETD messes with the balance and creates an over-determined system, it also adds an additional transfer path for vibrations.