ans2k

Without the price being the question. Would a Spoon header be better than Rick's? Rick's copied the mugen ap1 design, with that in mind. i have an ap2, would the gains be more, same goes for the spoon? I am not a welder and i don't really know anyone who is, so i would like the fact that rick's comes with brackets for the stock heat shield.

If anyone with these headers would give me their feedback/opinions would be grateful!!!

Thank you,

Alan

@nthony

I'm pretty sure that Rick's header doesn't fit AP2s.

ans2k

why would rick's not fit the ap2s????

ans2k

would the spoon fit?

inmys2k

ricks header does not give gains onto an ap2 its pointless. only made for an ap1

LostMotion

Both are ineffective.

ans2k

really? i found a good price for a spoon header. did you own one?

LostMotion

There's a reason it's a good price. Go to the JDM section and find the header thread. If you are NA and have no tuning capability then get a Tracy Sports or a Toda. A used Toda is pretty cheap.

@nthony

How would you know that Rick's is ineffective?

LostMotion

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showt...0&#entry9271220

A lot of brain power has been spent on this header question. There are a hand full of headers that are effective, split into two categories.

1) Headers appropriate for stock ecu: Toda, Mugen 2.2, Tracy Sports.

2) Headers appropriate for tuned ecu and high flow exhaust: All the above plus J's Racing and Hytech (to be determined, but should do nicely).

Some people have had decent results with a Berk header when all the supporting mods are done: tuned ecu, test pipe and exhaust. But still not as good as the one's listed above.

The stock header isn't a bad piece.