^^^this type of attitude is why I see so many trucks in ditches on the sides of highways when it snows around here.

FYI, aggressive tires from factory with large cleats is going to do nothing for you on Ice! I know that for a fact too!

 

truth of the matter is on ice nothing is gonna save your ass. but most areas only see patches of ice and not an entire icy road so say you lose control on the ice, then hit a patch of slushy or snow covered ground then the vsa has a chance to step in and save your ass where if it were your inputs alone you would still be fighting under/oversteer because of the loss of traction. thats just my opinion having driven cars like the is350, 350z and compared them to mustangs and camaros. but who knows i could be wrong.

 

these all seem like bolt on things that could be swapped over in a few hours in the shop and if i found someone who had a totaled 06 im sure i could get these parts fairly cheap. but there may be a lot more to it like you said. so itll be a while till im home from my deployment but when i get home if i dont get any feedback from anyone else who may have done this already ill begin on the actual hands on research to see if it is possible. and im almost positive that it is. it just seems like theres not enough of a difference in the two cars to be unable to do a plug and play install. im sure just as long as i got all the components it requires to work and swapped out what components i dont have that ill be able to do this. im only worried really about having to run an 06 ecu. how would i get the engine specs back to normal for an ap1.

 

Yes, I'm sure most of these parts are held on with bolts and screws. That plus a little wiring and you should be set.

 

[QUOTE=QuadraJet,Oct 31 2009, 01:54 PM] You're high, or have never done it. My truck, any 4WD truck...

They don't stop any better but, they sure go better.

 

I'd like to add that:
S2k with snow tires will brake better than an SUV on all seasons. Everyone has 4-wheel brakes.

Also that Racelogic is/was the unit that is used in the Lotus Elise/Exige/Scura, so they're not exactly crap.

 

They forget that going isn't the same as stopping. You know that most people have never felt the ABS engage too. The make an emergency stop and in many cases actually get off the brakes when they feel it pulsing and make the crash worse then if they didn't have ABS in the first place.

Just goes to prove that most people are average.

You guys seem to think trucks are some sort of primitive things like they used to be. 4WD and nothing else. My truck has the equivalent of VSA AND 4WD. A arm front suspension, 4 wheel disk brakes, 4 channel ABS. My truck has everything the S2k does for bad weather AND 4WD AND decent all weather tires. You can pretend VSA makes your car as capable as a 4WD, that doesn't make it true though.

Love my S but, in bad weather, I'd rather be behind the wheel of almost anything else.

 

ok this is what i said. i even copied and pasted to make sure i didnt miss anything.

" oh and btw i would like to not have to use an aftermarket system like racelogics. its a good system and seems worth the money but i believe that a system designed around this car in particular would work a whole lot better than a general bolt on tc."

oh and btw once again... i can assure you the tc system on the lotuses was designed around them and had a lot more r&d into their production than the ones for every other cars bolt on production system.

im not trying to be an ass but one thing i hate is words being put into my mouth... or the equivalent.

 

Are you saying that "A arm front suspension, 4 wheel disk brakes, 4 channel ABS" is the equivalent of a stability control system like VSA?

If your truck doesn't have SC then it doesn't have everything that an 06+ S2k has for bad weather. Are you aware that snow tires work better than all weather tires in the snow?

I didn't say that. I did say that in many common driving situations a car with stability control and snow tires is more capable of staying on line and on the road than a 4WD truck or car without stability control. It would be neat if you proved me wrong on this point so I can learn something new today.

 

The Racelogic system is infinitely programmable. From the sequence of injector cut to the algorithm at each stage of detected slip.

The algorithms may be programmed for the Elise, but snow-driving algorithms will be different regardless.

It's like an AEM EMS system. It's limited by the tuner.

You may want to read up on the history of the unit. It's used in racing (as a "bolt on"). But the "programming" will be user dependent.

I'm not putting words in your mouth. I'm just telling you that the system is not as limited as you think.