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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 12:23 PM
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Wouldnt bother with cams on an S2000 they are 'near enough' perfect on the stock setup, sure there is some power to be gained but not an awful lot.

Vtec killer cams will kill you, they named this because when vtec kicks in the massive torque increase snaps your neck and you die.
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by s2konroids
Wouldnt bother with cams on an S2000 they are 'near enough' perfect on the stock setup, sure there is some power to be gained but not an awful lot.

Vtec killer cams will kill you, they named this because when vtec kicks in the massive torque increase snaps your neck and you die.
I don't know if you're serious but if you are then you are pretty ill informed and shouldn't be giving advise. Stock cams are good but not near perfect. BC stage 2 have shown gains of 20 hp with a tune using AEM EMS. For NA thats huge and very affordable drop in performance. VTEC killer cams get rid of the low lift/duration economy cam profile and have you in VTEC 100% of the time. This is only for race applications and shouldn't be put on a street car.
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Reapur
Originally Posted by s2konroids' timestamp='1320265415' post='21123060
Wouldnt bother with cams on an S2000 they are 'near enough' perfect on the stock setup, sure there is some power to be gained but not an awful lot.

Vtec killer cams will kill you, they named this because when vtec kicks in the massive torque increase snaps your neck and you die.
I don't know if you're serious but if you are then you are pretty ill informed and shouldn't be giving advise. Stock cams are good but not near perfect. BC stage 2 have shown gains of 20 hp with a tune using AEM EMS. For NA thats huge and very affordable drop in performance. VTEC killer cams get rid of the low lift/duration economy cam profile and have you in VTEC 100% of the time. This is only for race applications and shouldn't be put on a street car.
He said stock ECU, read the post.

How much of those gains are contributed to the cams a lot less than the ECU not a great amount as i previously said, most of the gains are with the ECU not the cams.

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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by KingRevo
Thanks for the advice. Basically I just do things based on how "hillarious" they are. And an S2000 with lopey cams going nuts sounds pretty fun to me. The BC ones sound fun though, might look into them a bit more
No offence but maybe you should go buy a dodge Neon if you want to make a joke car. Don't do it to great car like the S2000. It really irks me now that the price of the car has come down people who owned civics are moving into the S and have no taste in how to treat a car with the pedigree ours has. Putting cheap Taiwanese parts on, ridiculous gold wheels, ugly audi style LED head lamps and lambo doors...

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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Reapur
Originally Posted by s2konroids' timestamp='1320265415' post='21123060
Wouldnt bother with cams on an S2000 they are 'near enough' perfect on the stock setup, sure there is some power to be gained but not an awful lot.

Vtec killer cams will kill you, they named this because when vtec kicks in the massive torque increase snaps your neck and you die.
I don't know if you're serious but if you are then you are pretty ill informed and shouldn't be giving advise. Stock cams are good but not near perfect. BC stage 2 have shown gains of 20 hp with a tune using AEM EMS. For NA thats huge and very affordable drop in performance. VTEC killer cams get rid of the low lift/duration economy cam profile and have you in VTEC 100% of the time. This is only for race applications and shouldn't be put on a street car.

Most of the gain is tuning lol not the cams. And while we're bringig up tid bits of info how bout the more then one grenaded motors curtesy of these bc cams.

Stock cams can support over 600whp.

Na rewards are limited unless ur willing to stroke the motor. And to do cams just for 4 banger chop is retarded.

Vtec killer cams will work fine. Just idle kinda crappy and get poor mpg.
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by camuman
Stock cams can support over 600whp.
You're obviously referring to boosted motors. So this statement has zero relevance in this section.

I'd only run VTEC killers after I promote my AP1 to "toy" status. The benefits are nice, but loosing the non-VTEC lobe, would be awful for a daily driver(especially for these little motors).
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by H22toF20
Originally Posted by camuman' timestamp='1320269032' post='21123270

Stock cams can support over 600whp.
You're obviously referring to boosted motors. So this statement has zero relevance in this section.

I'd only run VTEC killers after I promote my AP1 to "toy" status. The benefits are nice, but loosing the non-VTEC lobe, would be awful for a daily driver(especially for these little motors).

Zero relevance huh? So on a 600whp s2k they are hardly a bottle neck or inefficient but on a 200whp na application suddenly they are?
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by camuman
Originally Posted by H22toF20' timestamp='1320270500' post='21123349
[quote name='camuman' timestamp='1320269032' post='21123270']

Stock cams can support over 600whp.
You're obviously referring to boosted motors. So this statement has zero relevance in this section.

I'd only run VTEC killers after I promote my AP1 to "toy" status. The benefits are nice, but loosing the non-VTEC lobe, would be awful for a daily driver(especially for these little motors).

Zero relevance huh? So on a 600whp s2k they are hardly a bottle neck or inefficient but on a 200whp na application suddenly they are?
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A engine that sucks in air and one that has air being forced into it make power in completely different ways.
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by H22toF20
Originally Posted by camuman' timestamp='1320271694' post='21123415
[quote name='H22toF20' timestamp='1320270500' post='21123349']
[quote name='camuman' timestamp='1320269032' post='21123270']

Stock cams can support over 600whp.
You're obviously referring to boosted motors. So this statement has zero relevance in this section.

I'd only run VTEC killers after I promote my AP1 to "toy" status. The benefits are nice, but loosing the non-VTEC lobe, would be awful for a daily driver(especially for these little motors).

Zero relevance huh? So on a 600whp s2k they are hardly a bottle neck or inefficient but on a 200whp na application suddenly they are?
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A engine that sucks in air and one that has air being forced into it make power in completely different ways.
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Nm. Ur right. Do cams on stock bottom end na s2k an make 10whp if lucky. Because stock cams stink for 230whp na s2k.
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by camuman
Originally Posted by H22toF20' timestamp='1320272572' post='21123463
[quote name='camuman' timestamp='1320271694' post='21123415']
[quote name='H22toF20' timestamp='1320270500' post='21123349']
[quote name='camuman' timestamp='1320269032' post='21123270']

Stock cams can support over 600whp.
You're obviously referring to boosted motors. So this statement has zero relevance in this section.

I'd only run VTEC killers after I promote my AP1 to "toy" status. The benefits are nice, but loosing the non-VTEC lobe, would be awful for a daily driver(especially for these little motors).

Zero relevance huh? So on a 600whp s2k they are hardly a bottle neck or inefficient but on a 200whp na application suddenly they are?
[/quote]
A engine that sucks in air and one that has air being forced into it make power in completely different ways.
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Nm. Ur right. Do cams on stock bottom end na s2k an make 10whp if lucky. Because stock cams stink for 230whp na s2k.
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Reading your comments hurts my brain. Do some research before you spout off. You wouldn't make 600 hp boosted unless you were tuned thats a fact. Sure the stock cams can work in FI, nobody is disputing that. But for people who don't want to do FI 20hp is a big deal for only 700 bucks.

Click the link and read it, you may learn something

BC stage 2 cams
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