my ap1 back on the dyno with a 70 mm throttle body and a stepped intake
05-10-2012, 10:04 AM
#161
Nice, I'm thinking about running e85 but the dual-tune would run me about $700-$800 
I already have a AEM V2 ems and a bdl 70mm tb that I havent installed.
So far my mods consist of a password:jdm kevlar intake, okada project coilpacks, toda std header, spoon tp and exhaust
I Was talking to a local shop owner/s2000 enthusiast and he asked me about my future plans for my car and when was I going to jump the trigger, I told him what mods I had and the only thing holding me back from my tune was port matching my IM and installing my bdl tb.
He told me that not to bother with it, get rid of my 60mm spoon tp/exhaust and toda header is worthless, he said they rob power and I could install more power effeciant parts
My goal with my parts listed and a tune is 225-230 whp don't know if I could obtain that much power with my current parts/setup. 
Whats your mpg with e85 vs 91 octane unless 93 octane is available in your area...
I already have a AEM V2 ems and a bdl 70mm tb that I havent installed.
So far my mods consist of a password:jdm kevlar intake, okada project coilpacks, toda std header, spoon tp and exhaust
I Was talking to a local shop owner/s2000 enthusiast and he asked me about my future plans for my car and when was I going to jump the trigger, I told him what mods I had and the only thing holding me back from my tune was port matching my IM and installing my bdl tb.
He told me that not to bother with it, get rid of my 60mm spoon tp/exhaust and toda header is worthless, he said they rob power and I could install more power effeciant parts
My goal with my parts listed and a tune is 225-230 whp don't know if I could obtain that much power with my current parts/setup. Whats your mpg with e85 vs 91 octane unless 93 octane is available in your area...
05-10-2012, 01:59 PM
#162
Thread Starter
the larger throttle body is a toss up. imo it would work but only if you have the right intake pipe to match it. for instance, i netted large gains up top with the larger throttle body and the stepped intake. i would attribute the majority of the gains to the stepped intake but i don't think the gains would've been as great without a larger throttle body.
as far as the header, test pipe and exhaust go i would go bigger on the test pipe. which spoon exhaust do you have? i've always recommended a 3 inch single exit exhaust. with a test pipe alone there will be gains but i'm sure there's more mid range hp to be had with a larger test pipe and exhaust. the header seems to be a toss up. the stock header is very well designed. it's only downfall is that it's heavy. the one part i see on your mod list that you can get away without is the coilpacks. the stock coilpacks are fine. you don't need aftermarket ones.
as far as mpg with e85 i'm getting 20-22 with mixed city and freeway driving. i do have 93 available in the area but i never bothered to tune the car with 93. i'm sure if i were to tune it on 93 i could yield the same mpg as stock if not better.
as far as the header, test pipe and exhaust go i would go bigger on the test pipe. which spoon exhaust do you have? i've always recommended a 3 inch single exit exhaust. with a test pipe alone there will be gains but i'm sure there's more mid range hp to be had with a larger test pipe and exhaust. the header seems to be a toss up. the stock header is very well designed. it's only downfall is that it's heavy. the one part i see on your mod list that you can get away without is the coilpacks. the stock coilpacks are fine. you don't need aftermarket ones.
as far as mpg with e85 i'm getting 20-22 with mixed city and freeway driving. i do have 93 available in the area but i never bothered to tune the car with 93. i'm sure if i were to tune it on 93 i could yield the same mpg as stock if not better.
05-10-2012, 11:28 PM
#163
the larger throttle body is a toss up. imo it would work but only if you have the right intake pipe to match it. for instance, i netted large gains up top with the larger throttle body and the stepped intake. i would attribute the majority of the gains to the stepped intake but i don't think the gains would've been as great without a larger throttle body.
as far as the header, test pipe and exhaust go i would go bigger on the test pipe. which spoon exhaust do you have? i've always recommended a 3 inch single exit exhaust. with a test pipe alone there will be gains but i'm sure there's more mid range hp to be had with a larger test pipe and exhaust. the header seems to be a toss up. the stock header is very well designed. it's only downfall is that it's heavy. the one part i see on your mod list that you can get away without is the coilpacks. the stock coilpacks are fine. you don't need aftermarket ones.
as far as mpg with e85 i'm getting 20-22 with mixed city and freeway driving. i do have 93 available in the area but i never bothered to tune the car with 93. i'm sure if i were to tune it on 93 i could yield the same mpg as stock if not better.
as far as the header, test pipe and exhaust go i would go bigger on the test pipe. which spoon exhaust do you have? i've always recommended a 3 inch single exit exhaust. with a test pipe alone there will be gains but i'm sure there's more mid range hp to be had with a larger test pipe and exhaust. the header seems to be a toss up. the stock header is very well designed. it's only downfall is that it's heavy. the one part i see on your mod list that you can get away without is the coilpacks. the stock coilpacks are fine. you don't need aftermarket ones.
as far as mpg with e85 i'm getting 20-22 with mixed city and freeway driving. i do have 93 available in the area but i never bothered to tune the car with 93. i'm sure if i were to tune it on 93 i could yield the same mpg as stock if not better.
Sucks if you're in cali
05-11-2012, 01:37 PM
#164
just a quick update. it has officially been over a year since my car first saw e85. it's still using the stock fuel lines and the stock fuel pump. the entire fuel system is stock minus the injectors. so those of you on the fence about running e85 on a stock fuel system because it's corrosive, don't worry about it lol. you're a-ok.
This is something I have been wondering, good to know!
09-26-2015, 09:22 AM
#165
Wow honestly this is giving high hopes for the f22. I myself find ways to get the most of its power without using any internal upgrades. So far i have a custom 3.5intake, stock headers, and 70mm tp, with 70mm dual greddy se with flashpro. I almost gave up on finding supporting upgrades but looking at this thread im very impressed.
My next list will be the ZDX tb along with port matching with my intake manifold, and either berk headers or plm headers. Thanks for showing us your graph!
My next list will be the ZDX tb along with port matching with my intake manifold, and either berk headers or plm headers. Thanks for showing us your graph!
12-22-2017, 04:44 AM
#167
Thread Starter
I am not able to retrieve all of the old photos from my photobucket account. This is the picture of the final results.
The red line is with a short ram 3 inch intake that I made. The blue line is with a stepped intake that I made. The intake is 3.5 inch tapering down to 3 inch as it approaches the throttle body.
The red line is with a short ram 3 inch intake that I made. The blue line is with a stepped intake that I made. The intake is 3.5 inch tapering down to 3 inch as it approaches the throttle body.
12-29-2017, 07:26 AM
#168
I am not able to retrieve all of the old photos from my photobucket account. This is the picture of the final results.
The red line is with a short ram 3 inch intake that I made. The blue line is with a stepped intake that I made. The intake is 3.5 inch tapering down to 3 inch as it approaches the throttle body.
The red line is with a short ram 3 inch intake that I made. The blue line is with a stepped intake that I made. The intake is 3.5 inch tapering down to 3 inch as it approaches the throttle body.
12-31-2017, 01:29 PM
#170
I am not able to retrieve all of the old photos from my photobucket account. This is the picture of the final results.
The red line is with a short ram 3 inch intake that I made. The blue line is with a stepped intake that I made. The intake is 3.5 inch tapering down to 3 inch as it approaches the throttle body.
The red line is with a short ram 3 inch intake that I made. The blue line is with a stepped intake that I made. The intake is 3.5 inch tapering down to 3 inch as it approaches the throttle body.