URGE designs Project thread
12-15-2014, 04:53 PM
#101
Re: the oval throttle ITBs. I could care less about flow data. What I'd **love** to see is two dyno charts.
One of an engine with a completely stock bottom end, cams, and head, maybe a header, intake, exhaust and tune. Something with a stock or near stock redline. Then, the same engine with NO OTHER CHANGES except these ITBs and a tune to match them.
That is the motor that 80+% of your customers will be driving. We aren't driving a flow bench. We don't give a poop what the flow numbers are. We care about the difference in whp these parts might make on OUR engines.
One of an engine with a completely stock bottom end, cams, and head, maybe a header, intake, exhaust and tune. Something with a stock or near stock redline. Then, the same engine with NO OTHER CHANGES except these ITBs and a tune to match them.
That is the motor that 80+% of your customers will be driving. We aren't driving a flow bench. We don't give a poop what the flow numbers are. We care about the difference in whp these parts might make on OUR engines.
12-15-2014, 05:59 PM
#102
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Re: the oval throttle ITBs. I could care less about flow data. What I'd **love** to see is two dyno charts.
One of an engine with a completely stock bottom end, cams, and head, maybe a header, intake, exhaust and tune. Something with a stock or near stock redline. Then, the same engine with NO OTHER CHANGES except these ITBs and a tune to match them.
That is the motor that 80+% of your customers will be driving. We aren't driving a flow bench. We don't give a poop what the flow numbers are. We care about the difference in whp these parts might make on OUR engines.
One of an engine with a completely stock bottom end, cams, and head, maybe a header, intake, exhaust and tune. Something with a stock or near stock redline. Then, the same engine with NO OTHER CHANGES except these ITBs and a tune to match them.
That is the motor that 80+% of your customers will be driving. We aren't driving a flow bench. We don't give a poop what the flow numbers are. We care about the difference in whp these parts might make on OUR engines.
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12-15-2014, 06:03 PM
#103
Many of us do care about the numbers. Especially guys like me who is building an engine and needs this data for the head porter and cam designer.
Also, there have been some nice ITB kits on the market, but the customer base is still relatively small. The average guy with a stock motor and bolt ons doesn't just jump to ITB’S.
Also, there have been some nice ITB kits on the market, but the customer base is still relatively small. The average guy with a stock motor and bolt ons doesn't just jump to ITB’S.
12-15-2014, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Cheers!' timestamp='1418409955' post='23435408
Whatever happens do not use vibrant crap products. They are marginally better than no name eBay stuff.
It would be a shame to waste an amazing design Gernby made by cheapening it with poor inferior products.
It would be a shame to waste an amazing design Gernby made by cheapening it with poor inferior products.
12-17-2014, 02:24 PM
#105
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Nice to see new (and out of production) stuff coming out for the S! 
12-19-2014, 04:24 PM
#106
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OK time for a Major Announcement on the Gernby Mid-Pipe..
We can officially announce that we are working with Type One Racing to produce the Muffler system. We are very grateful to work with T1R and Ben. After looking at the design work, trying to source the mufflers ourselves, making a jig, etc, it simply didnt make sense. We approached T1R a few weeks ago to see if we can simply buy their Dual Mufflers system and we would produce our own Mid Pipes to connect to them. They loved the idea and gave us a great quote for the muffler system. They were also flexible enough to make a Single System Based on the dual design so we can manufacture one Mid Pipes tgive the customer the option of Dual or Single rear end.
I have personally been running a T1R Dual for 3 years on my car and feel it is the perfect blend of performance, quality and value. Amuse might be one of the few system with better quality, but the T1R has the best proven performance and arguably the best value.
To account for slop between aftermarket headers and the tight clearances the Gernpipe needs (it is 4-5" diameter in some places) we will build in a flex pipe and provide some adjustable hanger mounts.
So we will offer the Gernpipe in 3 options..
One last thing, in addition to providing extra torque with the patented Mid-Pipe design, Gernby also focused on Drone Reduction so this should provide the best of all worlds.
Again, thank you to Ben @ T1R and Gernby. We look forward to getting these out soon.
Gernby will be mocking up a custom mid pipe to connect to my T1R over the next few weeks. I will send that to manufacturing to get a jig and prototype built. We will check for QC, make adjustments and dyno before and after vs OEM, other after market exhausts. Still a few months away from release but I am pushing for a Spring availability.
Thank you for reading..
We can officially announce that we are working with Type One Racing to produce the Muffler system. We are very grateful to work with T1R and Ben. After looking at the design work, trying to source the mufflers ourselves, making a jig, etc, it simply didnt make sense. We approached T1R a few weeks ago to see if we can simply buy their Dual Mufflers system and we would produce our own Mid Pipes to connect to them. They loved the idea and gave us a great quote for the muffler system. They were also flexible enough to make a Single System Based on the dual design so we can manufacture one Mid Pipes tgive the customer the option of Dual or Single rear end.
I have personally been running a T1R Dual for 3 years on my car and feel it is the perfect blend of performance, quality and value. Amuse might be one of the few system with better quality, but the T1R has the best proven performance and arguably the best value.
To account for slop between aftermarket headers and the tight clearances the Gernpipe needs (it is 4-5" diameter in some places) we will build in a flex pipe and provide some adjustable hanger mounts.
So we will offer the Gernpipe in 3 options..
- w/ T1R 70mm dual back end, oval muffler 2/ straight gradient tips
- w/ T1R 70mm single back end, oval muffler w/ straight gradient tips
- Stand alone to connect to any users that already have a T1R Dual (again our singles are custom so it wont fit T1R singles)
One last thing, in addition to providing extra torque with the patented Mid-Pipe design, Gernby also focused on Drone Reduction so this should provide the best of all worlds.
Again, thank you to Ben @ T1R and Gernby. We look forward to getting these out soon.
Gernby will be mocking up a custom mid pipe to connect to my T1R over the next few weeks. I will send that to manufacturing to get a jig and prototype built. We will check for QC, make adjustments and dyno before and after vs OEM, other after market exhausts. Still a few months away from release but I am pushing for a Spring availability.
Thank you for reading..
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12-21-2014, 02:21 PM
#109
Awesome! Looking forward to seeing how the single turns out. Any word on the what the muffler and tip design will be? Will it be similar to one of their currents systems.
12-22-2014, 05:58 AM
#110
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Yup, we mentioned it in the post. Our spec will have oval mufflers, straight tips with gradient coloring. The only thing we didnt mention is that they should be 70mm in diameter.
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