2018 S2K Challenge discussion
#31
Somewhat related rules question...
Do the 0.25 points for Aftermarket ECU, ECU reflash or OEM ECU mismatch also include piggybacks like the E-Manage?
EDIT: also, do single adjustable coilovers count as 1 or 1.5 points? The 2017 rules show one way adjustable shocks as 1, but the calculator doesn't list single adjustables...
Thanks.
Do the 0.25 points for Aftermarket ECU, ECU reflash or OEM ECU mismatch also include piggybacks like the E-Manage?
EDIT: also, do single adjustable coilovers count as 1 or 1.5 points? The 2017 rules show one way adjustable shocks as 1, but the calculator doesn't list single adjustables...
Thanks.
E-manage, Flash pro, kpro, vafc, or ECU mismatch all take the ECU points. Again looking to eliminate "cheaty" setups and let people make the best quality decision. Pretty much everyone does flash pro/kpro. Some AEM.
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Chibo (12-15-2017)
#32
Somewhat related rules question...
Do the 0.25 points for Aftermarket ECU, ECU reflash or OEM ECU mismatch also include piggybacks like the E-Manage?
EDIT: also, do single adjustable coilovers count as 1 or 1.5 points? The 2017 rules show one way adjustable shocks as 1, but the calculator doesn't list single adjustables...
Thanks.
Do the 0.25 points for Aftermarket ECU, ECU reflash or OEM ECU mismatch also include piggybacks like the E-Manage?
EDIT: also, do single adjustable coilovers count as 1 or 1.5 points? The 2017 rules show one way adjustable shocks as 1, but the calculator doesn't list single adjustables...
Thanks.
The same gos for ECU so, ECU mismatch, VAFC, emanage, AEM and Kpro all take ecu points. Most guys run flashpro/kpo. Some run AEM. We want drivers to choose the best performing parts for their dollar not pick a setup to maximize points buy.
#34
Adjustable coilovers are anything that can be corner balanced or has an adjustment knob. There are a few sets of magic-bilsteins flying around that are performance parallel to a penske but without knobs. Dont want to create a cheater shock, instead we want people to make the best purchase decision for quality reasons not because of rules.
The same gos for ECU so, ECU mismatch, VAFC, emanage, AEM and Kpro all take ecu points. Most guys run flashpro/kpo. Some run AEM. We want drivers to choose the best performing parts for their dollar not pick a setup to maximize points buy.
The same gos for ECU so, ECU mismatch, VAFC, emanage, AEM and Kpro all take ecu points. Most guys run flashpro/kpo. Some run AEM. We want drivers to choose the best performing parts for their dollar not pick a setup to maximize points buy.
Also, is it possible to clarify the rules so piggybacks are listed with the ECU points?
Lastly, are the C71 and the C51 compound tires level 2 & 1 R-comps, respectively?
EDIT: are intake manifold, throttle body and pulleys free (no point modifications)?
Thanks.
#35
Ok, so the spreadsheet is more correct than the PDF, and Koni yellows + lowering springs are 1.5 points.
Also, is it possible to clarify the rules so piggybacks are listed with the ECU points?
Lastly, are the C71 and the C51 compound tires level 2 & 1 R-comps, respectively?
EDIT: are intake manifold, throttle body and pulleys free (no point modifications)?
Thanks.
Also, is it possible to clarify the rules so piggybacks are listed with the ECU points?
Lastly, are the C71 and the C51 compound tires level 2 & 1 R-comps, respectively?
EDIT: are intake manifold, throttle body and pulleys free (no point modifications)?
Thanks.
#36
Ok, so the spreadsheet is more correct than the PDF, and Koni yellows + lowering springs are 1.5 points.
Also, is it possible to clarify the rules so piggybacks are listed with the ECU points?
Lastly, are the C71 and the C51 compound tires level 2 & 1 R-comps, respectively?
EDIT: are intake manifold, throttle body and pulleys free (no point modifications)?
Thanks.
Also, is it possible to clarify the rules so piggybacks are listed with the ECU points?
Lastly, are the C71 and the C51 compound tires level 2 & 1 R-comps, respectively?
EDIT: are intake manifold, throttle body and pulleys free (no point modifications)?
Thanks.
C71/C91 are L3. (listed as autoX/ qualifying compound)
These are odd since they are all listed as 40TW
Ill make sure to clarify that when this is final, but the general rule is L2 are for DOT competition race tires and L3 are for DOT compeition qualifying/autox compounds
Koni yellows and lowering springs (not on threaded collars) would fall under the 1point (single adjustable on lowering springs). If you added threaded collars and race springs this would be 1.5.
Intake mani and throttle body are open. They dont seem to make much power on their own without supporting mods (intake, cams, ECU etc)
#38
Need to fix section:
1-5.1 Vehicles with total Classing System points greater than 6.5 points and up to 12 points may compete in the Super-Modified Class.
You should also add points classification for the new tires (since they're no longer considered mid-season) - RS4 and VR-1, which I don't think are at RE-71r or RivalS levels of grip. There's enough data out on those two tires.
1-5.1 Vehicles with total Classing System points greater than 6.5 points and up to 12 points may compete in the Super-Modified Class.
You should also add points classification for the new tires (since they're no longer considered mid-season) - RS4 and VR-1, which I don't think are at RE-71r or RivalS levels of grip. There's enough data out on those two tires.
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