6ULR vs CE28?
I don't see why you lock your other topic then post the exact same thing in here. Word of advice, start by clearing up your question.
You don't want people comparing the price and looks of each wheel yet you put it in your pros and cons. You don't care about being the fastest, but you put a big emphasis on the weight difference. Plus, the whole "refinishing" portion is a joke. You're going to be tracking these wheels, and it's not like most ce28s that go on sale have huge chunks of paint missing.
If you take out price and looks your comparison of the two wheels you get:
6ULR - Can run wider wheels/tires but are heavier. Can't run staggered rs3s.
CE28 - Can't run as wide, but a bit lighter. Can run staggered rs3s.
If I were "you" I'd go for the 6ULRs simply because you are turbo'd and would benefit from the extra tire.
You don't want people comparing the price and looks of each wheel yet you put it in your pros and cons. You don't care about being the fastest, but you put a big emphasis on the weight difference. Plus, the whole "refinishing" portion is a joke. You're going to be tracking these wheels, and it's not like most ce28s that go on sale have huge chunks of paint missing.
If you take out price and looks your comparison of the two wheels you get:
6ULR - Can run wider wheels/tires but are heavier. Can't run staggered rs3s.
CE28 - Can't run as wide, but a bit lighter. Can run staggered rs3s.
If I were "you" I'd go for the 6ULRs simply because you are turbo'd and would benefit from the extra tire.
I went with the 6ULR because they were wide, cheap, and offered BBK clearance. I personally think the looks are just so so and they are heavy in general, but given their size it is reasonable.
If budget or BBK clearance isn't an issue, I'd get the Volks.
If budget or BBK clearance isn't an issue, I'd get the Volks.
Originally Posted by TerminatioN,Feb 3 2011, 11:41 AM
I'm not concerned with times or being the fastest... the "racing" I do will simply be for my own personal enjoyment.
The extra weight of the 6ULR is there for structural integrity....
IMO the CE28's are played-out. They've been around forever.
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Having said this, I'm rock'n Emilio's wheels and have never been happier. In fact I'm tucking 295's in the rear withOUT any tire bulge or fender rubbing. Despite the worries of others, and the poor measurements on Tire Rack, the Kuhmo XS tires measure exactly 10" in width.
so I've been able to get away with 255 front and 295 rear tires without EVER rubbing the fenders. Granted, I've had my fenders rolled (not flared).
With a turbo, the wider rear tires are definitely nice. Go big or go home.
Originally Posted by TerminatioN,Feb 3 2011, 01:17 PM
You think 6ULRs are stronger than CE28s?
What BBK are you running?
There isn't a ridiculous weight difference, but 3-4 lbs per corner is pretty significant...
Yeah, that is a good point. I don't think I'd want to do 17x10 all around though... that requires a little more fender work than I really want.
What BBK are you running?
There isn't a ridiculous weight difference, but 3-4 lbs per corner is pretty significant...
Yeah, that is a good point. I don't think I'd want to do 17x10 all around though... that requires a little more fender work than I really want.
Originally Posted by ///RS-2000,Feb 3 2011, 10:46 PM
I would think that the 6ULRs would be a bit stronger due to more material. Wheels bend all the time but if price is factored I would rather replace a 6ULR that a CE.
Originally Posted by Voodoo_S2K,Feb 3 2011, 10:56 PM
Maybe if both were made the same, but the Volk's being forged should be stronger then the cast 949's.
I'm a bit confused. The OP says disregard cost, yet he states that he can't afford bigger sized Volk's because you usually can't find them used. So I guess cost is a factor. So if cost is a factor, you won't find a better deal than Emilio's wheels. If I were you, I'd go with 949Racing 17x10 +52 all around, and run 255/255 non-staggered (with the option to do 275/275 when you want more grip, or 255/275 if you can't deal with the oversteer). I know you're on OEM suspension. So am I. The oversteer on non-stagger isn't bad at all, and not noticeably worse than on staggered setup. The benefit of non-stagger isn't about tire longevity through rotating, it's more grip which gives you better turn-in and braking.

949Racing 17x9 +48 Wheels with 255/255 NT01 on OEM Suspension

949Racing 17x9 +48 Wheels with 255/255 NT01 on OEM Suspension
^^^ yup. I ran nonstag on OEM suspension for years, and IMO it was more predictable than the staggered setup. I believe this is the case because you generally have less lock in he steering when going around a corner.
All you really need is a front sway bar, doesn't have to be anything crazy, any of the 200 some odd dollar 32mm deals will settle the car down.
And even though it seems Volks Re out of the question, they make 17x10's in 45, 50, and 70 offset, so if done right, no rolling would be required with a 255 tire.
Also, another really good,sexy, light wheel to consider is the Wedssport TC105N. They are priced in between the volks and Emilio's. They are the lightest of the bunch, and clear BBK, better than either in the relative offset. They are also readily available if one should meet it's demise (no Mackin 6 month lead time).
All you really need is a front sway bar, doesn't have to be anything crazy, any of the 200 some odd dollar 32mm deals will settle the car down.
And even though it seems Volks Re out of the question, they make 17x10's in 45, 50, and 70 offset, so if done right, no rolling would be required with a 255 tire.
Also, another really good,sexy, light wheel to consider is the Wedssport TC105N. They are priced in between the volks and Emilio's. They are the lightest of the bunch, and clear BBK, better than either in the relative offset. They are also readily available if one should meet it's demise (no Mackin 6 month lead time).
^ I agree with the WedSport. Those are my daily driver wheels (and will be my practice wheels when I go with RS-3, with the 6ULR being my time attack wheels). 17x9 +49 is a great offset, and surprisingly lightweight.
But still significantly more expensive than 949Racing. I think they go for about $1600 new, $1200 or so used.
Also, a MY00-01 or CR front sway bar is just enough to tame the oversteer. The car is perfectly balanced.
But still significantly more expensive than 949Racing. I think they go for about $1600 new, $1200 or so used.Also, a MY00-01 or CR front sway bar is just enough to tame the oversteer. The car is perfectly balanced.



