alignments revisited
Just had my car aligned to my specs and had some weirdness that I haven't seen reported before. I'm looking for any input that may help define the cause.
The rear was to be set at -2.0 deg. camber and 1/8" total toe in. However, the mechanic called me out and told me that he couldn't get the toe with that amount of negative camber. I know this is an issue with the fronts and I suspect that the same problem is present in the rear but only at HIGH negative camber. For "only" -2.0 deg. camber, toe had to be set at -1/8" on each side (total toe in of 1/4").
Anyone else experience this? Those of you who have run toe-OUT, how'd you accomplish this? Nothing appeared to be bent or otherwise damaged...
The rear was to be set at -2.0 deg. camber and 1/8" total toe in. However, the mechanic called me out and told me that he couldn't get the toe with that amount of negative camber. I know this is an issue with the fronts and I suspect that the same problem is present in the rear but only at HIGH negative camber. For "only" -2.0 deg. camber, toe had to be set at -1/8" on each side (total toe in of 1/4").
Anyone else experience this? Those of you who have run toe-OUT, how'd you accomplish this? Nothing appeared to be bent or otherwise damaged...
My last alignment shows -2.00 and a toe-in of .023 degrees on each side which is about 1/10 inch. My car is lowered about an inch so might be different but the mechanic never said anything about not be able to get what I asked for.
I thought I had seen reports with more negative camber and zero toe.
I thought I had seen reports with more negative camber and zero toe.
Jeff, my impression after having my car aligned a few times is that toe moves towards toe-out as negative camber is put into the rear. I was able to get -23/8 camber (with me in the car) and 1/4" toe-in. If I had gone further with the camber I wouldn't have been able to maintain the 1/4" in - it would've moved closer to 0.
Next time I'm thinking of increasing the toe-in, even if it's at the cost of camber. The car's a bit loose these days...
Next time I'm thinking of increasing the toe-in, even if it's at the cost of camber. The car's a bit loose these days...
Has anyone found that the alignment has changed hugely between alignments? I went from -1.0 deg. camber on the front to -1.5 on the left (no wonder I had excessive tire wear there!) and -0.3 on the right. No curbs but certainly my fair share of potholes (no huge ones) as well as the occasional nasty bump in a turn during autocrosses.
Surprisingly if you drive you car at all on the street it will need to ba aligned more than just once a year. I plan to check mine often during the season. Camber doesn't hurt tire wear as much as toe and toe can change easily.
As far as spec goes, I have between 1.8 and 2.1 negative camber in the rear with 3/32 toe in. Jason Sainis car is similar. Both alignments were done by King. I would look for another alignment shop if I were you.
Just my $.02
As far as spec goes, I have between 1.8 and 2.1 negative camber in the rear with 3/32 toe in. Jason Sainis car is similar. Both alignments were done by King. I would look for another alignment shop if I were you.
Just my $.02
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