AP2, track with VSC on/off?
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Oh forgot to ask what track are you going to run at? What you should also consider any associated risks with the track to determine whether you need to be more or less conservative. Not sure where you live but i find that in california some tracks, such as infineon raceway or laguna seca have a lot of walls and with at least infineon have some turns that are notorious for wrecking cars. On the otherhand, tracks like buttonwillow, willowsprings, california speedway, and thunderhill raceway are wide open for the most part. You loose control you slide off the track and onto dirt or grass then you laugh about it and hop back on the track with no harm.
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Originally Posted by pistolpete17,Apr 6 2009, 10:29 AM
I am tracking my S on May 29th for the first time. Question: Those with AP2s, do you run with VSC on or off (on track, not autoX)?
Being my first track day with this car, I will start with it on. I am wondering tho, how intrusive is it on the track?
Being my first track day with this car, I will start with it on. I am wondering tho, how intrusive is it on the track?
Driven one with VSA on but it felt counter intuitive. You'd learn alot more without it on in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by alvanderp,Apr 6 2009, 12:01 PM
I find the VSC to be way too intrusive on the track, but if I was still learning it could keep certain bad habits in check.
If it's a track with lots of tight turns it's even more intrusive and it will impede you from powering out of turns. On my first track day with this car I had it on for the first run, then turned it off for the second run, and it made a huge difference. The AP2s are more forgiving to start with than early AP1, but VSA is a good tool to help you learn the limits of the car slowly and your limits (if you're new to track driving).
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Originally Posted by s2kfrog,Apr 6 2009, 06:56 PM
Oh forgot to ask what track are you going to run at? What you should also consider any associated risks with the track to determine whether you need to be more or less conservative. Not sure where you live but i find that in california some tracks, such as infineon raceway or laguna seca have a lot of walls and with at least infineon have some turns that are notorious for wrecking cars. On the otherhand, tracks like buttonwillow, willowsprings, california speedway, and thunderhill raceway are wide open for the most part. You loose control you slide off the track and onto dirt or grass then you laugh about it and hop back on the track with no harm.
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Originally Posted by s2kfrog,Apr 6 2009, 10:56 PM
Oh forgot to ask what track are you going to run at? What you should also consider any associated risks with the track to determine whether you need to be more or less conservative. Not sure where you live but i find that in california some tracks, such as infineon raceway or laguna seca have a lot of walls and with at least infineon have some turns that are notorious for wrecking cars. On the otherhand, tracks like buttonwillow, willowsprings, california speedway, and thunderhill raceway are wide open for the most part. You loose control you slide off the track and onto dirt or grass then you laugh about it and hop back on the track with no harm.
Then work your way up to whatever level you feel comfortable with.
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You'll never reach the car's handling limits with it on. That's a good thing if you're nervous about spinning or losing control, but you'll consistently lag behind others.
May as well turn it off -- you'll learn to control the car better if you don't have the electronics helping you.
May as well turn it off -- you'll learn to control the car better if you don't have the electronics helping you.
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Thanks for the help guys. With the exception of new tires, I know my car very well. The first thing I always do after start up is turn the VSC off (except in rain). I often test the limits, but I have never tracked it yet. I'll let you all know how it goes.