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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by penguins2001,Nov 5 2007, 09:00 AM
CFD can still be performed on a wing like that and being that aero is their only business they probably have done it
The tornado is for sale, it must make hp -and- save gas. I mean why would someone sell something that doesn't actually perform?

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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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[QUOTE=FormulaRedline,Nov 5 2007, 09:15 AM] Not necessarily.
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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The tornado is for sale, it must make hp -and- save gas. I mean why would someone sell something that doesn't actually perform?

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The thread starter clearly stated he saw their CFD results at sema I figured i would take his word for it...
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by penguins2001,Nov 5 2007, 02:50 PM
The thread starter clearly stated he saw their CFD results at sema
You are right, I missed that:

[QUOTE=blackey,Nov 3 2007, 04:32 PM]Not measured I'm sure, but CFD is better than nothing.

They had plots, etc.. oif the airfoil shapes.
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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Does anyone know of any data for the non-"3D" wings that APR offers? Just the GT series wings. How do they compare to the "3D" wings?
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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I asked all of these questions when I was wing shopping and this is what I got:

This data is for the GTC-200






The wing on the test car:




And this is the spreadsheet they sent me of their data:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pgC...5p4jgv6mRhEJyKA

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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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mike what do the pretty colors mean?
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Fyrestrike,Nov 7 2007, 12:59 PM
The wing on the test car:

Why don't people fair their mounts? That's a bunch of parasitic drag that is easily avoidable.

Notice that the drag doubles between alpha 0 and alpha 15, but the lift only goes up by less than 50%.

There's also a clear indication of separated flow behind the more aggressive tips of the wing in that velocity vector plot. I'm not at all convinced that the 3D shaping is helping this wing (except for sales).
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Nov 7 2007, 05:35 PM
Why don't people fair their mounts? That's a bunch of parasitic drag that is easily avoidable.
What's that?
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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Yikes! Somebody call the CFD police!

That aesthetic change in the wing really works against the flow.

Fairings/spats are just covers to help smooth the flow over an object, essentially a miniature wing shape over the supports.
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