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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 07:30 AM
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I posted this in the CR thread already, but I figure I'd post this here since the audience in this forum is most likely better suited to answer this question.

New sport compact car has an article about the cr. A segment that caught my attention was the following, which talks about the new chassis bracing in the cr:

"Deleting the soft top makes room for a rear reinforcement bar, which increases rear lateral chassis stiffness by roughly 11 percent. The steering rack mounting structures were also stiffened with two tubular steel braces, used in conjunction with the CR's 13:8:1 ratio steering rack. All these stiffeners bolt to existing s2000 hard points, but aren't recommended for use with the stock 14:9:1 steering rack, as Honda engineers informed us that it upsets the balance of the regular s2000"

Anyone care to chime in? I don't understand why a stiffer chassis would be a negative with the slower steering, so maybe someone could explain that to me.


Mods feel free to move this if you really feel this should only stay in the CR thread.

Thanks in advance
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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Possibly a miscommunication? Was the article by Dave Coleman or someone else?
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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Here are the rear changes:



I have a pic of the steering rack stiffener as well if you want me to post it.

I think if your car already has a good aftermarket suspension, you can prolly get the stiffeners.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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If you could post a pic of the steering rack reinforcements, that would be nice.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 11:08 AM
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At the rear, the brace would theoretically affect the shock tuning, as weight transfers slightly more quickly. The steering rack's effect on handling could be as simple as having somewhat different caster; if it also acts as a chassis brace, then again there could be some change in damping.

Frankly, though, those effects (taken separately from the other CR revisions) should be second- or third-order at best, so their claim sounds a bit like a CYA corporate line.

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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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voodoo posted a picture of the steering rack changes.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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I'll ask one of the suspension engineers at Honda R&D about the front rack. See if he can shed some light.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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well...my question isn't so much about the changes, as about what he claims the engineers at honda said about upsetting the balance of the car with the slower steering.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 11:42 PM
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means

"you people think the first s2k had snap oversteer, we assume you can't drive anyway, we even had to install traction control"

MY00-01 AP1 FTW

My guess would be they found some slop in the steering rack and by reinforcing it it made the steering too quick for an average driver.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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where can we average joes get a hold of one of these quicker racks?
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