Autocross tips
S|2ocK,
You are welcome to ride with me on the first couple of runs at any event.
I must admit that coming from a low powered CRX, it has taken me amost 2 years to really start to feel comfortable with the S.... and I mean that I am just starting to get the car. I really suggest taking it slow with the mods and learn this car as is... well... go ahead and get a FSB. But, that's it. :-) You will be surprised how well Honda did with this car from the factory.
BTW, you going to KYR's Papa John's event? Maybe we can hook up then.
-D
You are welcome to ride with me on the first couple of runs at any event.
I must admit that coming from a low powered CRX, it has taken me amost 2 years to really start to feel comfortable with the S.... and I mean that I am just starting to get the car. I really suggest taking it slow with the mods and learn this car as is... well... go ahead and get a FSB. But, that's it. :-) You will be surprised how well Honda did with this car from the factory.
BTW, you going to KYR's Papa John's event? Maybe we can hook up then.
-D
That's weird. When I drive a FWD car, I tend to trail-brake deep into the corner, with a tighter/slower turn to get turned in as short a space as possible so that I can get the steering straight and power out of the turn.
I can get on the gas much earlier in a well-balanced RWD car, which results in a higher exit speed.
Just a different perspective, apparently.
I can get on the gas much earlier in a well-balanced RWD car, which results in a higher exit speed.
Just a different perspective, apparently.
I was in a similar situation to you. I started autoXing a pretty well prepped Honda Prelude in STS for 2.5 years. Then I switched to the S2000 in BS/AS after the STS Prelude was stolen. My learning curve has been steep. I'm on my 3rd full season running an S2000, and I am only just now getting comfortable with the car. It took 2 years of seat time and the addition of a really huge ass front sway bar on the stiffest setting to finally get me to trust the car.
Your driving technique for the S2000 VS the FWD Celica will be very different. I know in my FWD street tire Prelude, the fastest way I could get it around a tight corner was to brake really late, turn while braking to coax some rotation in the rear end, and then get on the gas at just the right moment to pull through the turn. The S2000 required un-learning that habit, which took me a while. The S2000 needs to be slowed down and settled BEFORE the turn, then powered through. It does not respond well to hamfistedness.
Andrew
Your driving technique for the S2000 VS the FWD Celica will be very different. I know in my FWD street tire Prelude, the fastest way I could get it around a tight corner was to brake really late, turn while braking to coax some rotation in the rear end, and then get on the gas at just the right moment to pull through the turn. The S2000 required un-learning that habit, which took me a while. The S2000 needs to be slowed down and settled BEFORE the turn, then powered through. It does not respond well to hamfistedness.
Andrew
I brake extremely deep into the turns. I think it's one thing my car does well. Trail braking is a way of life for me. It could be my car set up or your car set up but my car is very stable while going deep.
Originally Posted by aklucsarits,Jul 18 2006, 06:09 AM
Your driving technique for the S2000 VS the FWD Celica will be very different.
Andrew
Andrew
Driving the S takes a lot more finessing the steering, braking, and accelerating than when I autoX'd my Sentra.
BTW, Andrew, I like your list of cars. I just sold my 92 Sentra SE-R.
this is very true, i have been autocrossing for my first time this season and setting the car before the turn is one of the most important things i am STILL trying to learn... i either enter too slow and drop out of vtec or brake too late and brake drive into an oversteer, and im not too fond of s2000 drifting
Originally Posted by SumAznGuy,Jul 18 2006, 01:24 PM
When a fwd car over steers, you counter steer and mash the gas pedal. Depending on how fast the back end is coming around, you need to modulate the throttle in a rwd car. If you get off the gas, the back end will come around. Too much gas and the back end will come around.
Driving the S takes a lot more finessing the steering, braking, and accelerating than when I autoX'd my Sentra.
BTW, Andrew, I like your list of cars. I just sold my 92 Sentra SE-R.
Driving the S takes a lot more finessing the steering, braking, and accelerating than when I autoX'd my Sentra.
BTW, Andrew, I like your list of cars. I just sold my 92 Sentra SE-R.
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