Broken A-arm Brackets
Have all the bracket failures been on the '00 & '01 models? There are several '02's, in my region, that have 2+ years of autocross abuse and none have had this issue yet. Is it possible that Honda made a change on the '02-'03?
Just curious...Now mine will probably let go at Sunday's event for the stupid question
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Just curious...Now mine will probably let go at Sunday's event for the stupid question
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Referring to our location only, it's not easy to stress out the brackets on our home course due to the ice-like traction we have here. R compounds or not, they both act like Vaseline under a shoe on a basketball court. While I understand both viewpoints, there are regional classes for street and race tires in some areas (we used to have a STS and STR class for example).
I actually like running on Kuhmos because they cost a LOT LESS than S02 tires. I don't have the budget to do Hoosier/Motons on my street driven car, especially since I'd need to rebuild them more than a race-only S2000. We are in the middle of the ocean and we pay higher than the highest price advertised anywhere in the other 48 states.
Our short/slick/technical/narrow course favors high-horsepower cars and cars with superior traction (AWD). I'd hate to see Mazda 323 GTX (turbo AWD's) beat S2000's on our course because we can't put the power down due to traction issues. WRX's/Evo's/STI's are all doing awesome because they have 2 major "cheats" like superior traction (unbelieveable on R compounds) and turbo to push through the uphills. I could be wrong, but we may be the one of the very few regions that involves a course with 2 major elevation changes.
I understand the agreement of keeping the car stock, in factory trim, but keep in mind that most production cars (and their stock tires) weren't designed in mind to autocross as their primary function, so that makes autocrossing itself something that hardly any manufacturer intended. So I guess the question is, where do we draw the line? I believe in safety above all else, and if changes to a production car can be made to accomodate safety, I'm all for it... as long as it doesn't give the competitor a significant advantage over a car that's unmodded for additional safety.
Just my .02
I actually like running on Kuhmos because they cost a LOT LESS than S02 tires. I don't have the budget to do Hoosier/Motons on my street driven car, especially since I'd need to rebuild them more than a race-only S2000. We are in the middle of the ocean and we pay higher than the highest price advertised anywhere in the other 48 states.
Our short/slick/technical/narrow course favors high-horsepower cars and cars with superior traction (AWD). I'd hate to see Mazda 323 GTX (turbo AWD's) beat S2000's on our course because we can't put the power down due to traction issues. WRX's/Evo's/STI's are all doing awesome because they have 2 major "cheats" like superior traction (unbelieveable on R compounds) and turbo to push through the uphills. I could be wrong, but we may be the one of the very few regions that involves a course with 2 major elevation changes.
I understand the agreement of keeping the car stock, in factory trim, but keep in mind that most production cars (and their stock tires) weren't designed in mind to autocross as their primary function, so that makes autocrossing itself something that hardly any manufacturer intended. So I guess the question is, where do we draw the line? I believe in safety above all else, and if changes to a production car can be made to accomodate safety, I'm all for it... as long as it doesn't give the competitor a significant advantage over a car that's unmodded for additional safety.
Just my .02
Originally Posted by jlucas,Aug 3 2004, 03:36 AM
PM sent.
If you have pictures of failures (other than posted above), please email me.
edit: jlucas at columbus.rr.com
If you have pictures of failures (other than posted above), please email me.
edit: jlucas at columbus.rr.com
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=50244
Tried to PM you but it just give me an error for that. Here's what I was going to send (didn't feel the need to take up everybody's time with a technical/software issue):
I don't have any trouble seeing the posts but the posts have no pictures. There is link in the post (jason's second post) to an album and there is no picture when I look at the album and that message was at the top of the page but sounds like the one problem is not connected to the other. I even looked at Jason's main album and none of the pictures are visable even though there are links to many pictures. I even tried a 2 different browsers (Mozilla & Explorer).
I have not seen those pictures so if you can see, please email it to me.
Jeremy
I don't have any trouble seeing the posts but the posts have no pictures. There is link in the post (jason's second post) to an album and there is no picture when I look at the album and that message was at the top of the page but sounds like the one problem is not connected to the other. I even looked at Jason's main album and none of the pictures are visable even though there are links to many pictures. I even tried a 2 different browsers (Mozilla & Explorer).
I have not seen those pictures so if you can see, please email it to me.
Jeremy
Originally Posted by tmorrow,Jul 16 2004, 06:58 PM
Have all the bracket failures been on the '00 & '01 models? There are several '02's, in my region, that have 2+ years of autocross abuse and none have had this issue yet. Is it possible that Honda made a change on the '02-'03?
Just curious...Now mine will probably let go at Sunday's event for the stupid question
.
Just curious...Now mine will probably let go at Sunday's event for the stupid question
.Maybe there is a trend here.....
What shocks/suspension are the cars using that are breaking? Perhaps those on Stock shocks and Koni's aren't prone to breaking? If stiffing up the car is the reason for the failure then I hate to say it but Tough luck. BMW E36 M3's have rear strut mount failures from running stiffer shocks and you can't do anything about that and remain stock. Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions here as well.
But has the Failure happened on a stock shock car?




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