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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by IntegraR0064
Beau finally got back to me, he apparently had the flu.

He said he could extend the clevis so it's 4.6" to the canister from the clevis bolt centerline and maintain stroke while lessening droop by 50mm, which he thought was alright.
I transposed an internal droop limiter number for actual damper dimensions. With the shorter front, you would have 10mm less droop, and gain 10mm in bump travel, stroke will remain the same @ 118mm. This should work if the additional length of the clevis will clear your sway bar. I saw your e-mail this am and will get back to you today.
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Beau@Performance Shock, Inc.
Originally Posted by IntegraR0064' timestamp='1358397168' post='22272454
Beau finally got back to me, he apparently had the flu.

He said he could extend the clevis so it's 4.6" to the canister from the clevis bolt centerline and maintain stroke while lessening droop by 50mm, which he thought was alright.
I transposed an internal droop limiter number for actual damper dimensions. With the shorter front, you would have 10mm less droop, and gain 10mm in bump travel, stroke will remain the same @ 118mm. This should work if the additional length of the clevis will clear your sway bar. I saw your e-mail this am and will get back to you today.
Thanks for the clarification, those numbers make more sense. You're saying basically that total shock travel is unchanged but the shock internals will move 10mm compared to your normal clevis? But do you mean 10mm more droop and 10mm less bump travel? It seems like the shock body would move upwards to accomodate a longer clevis, lowering bump travel and raising droop if ride height is maintained...but I could be thinking about this backwards or misunderstanding...

As I posted above I think that clevis length would clear but it would be ridiculously close so I'd feel more comfortable reworking the sway bar, unless I have any surprises trying to do that in which case we can discuss more. I really appreciate your willingness to work with me on that though. Looking forward to seeing your reply to my email.
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by IntegraR0064
Originally Posted by Beau@Performance Shock, Inc.' timestamp='1358530143' post='22275876
[quote name='IntegraR0064' timestamp='1358397168' post='22272454']
Beau finally got back to me, he apparently had the flu.

He said he could extend the clevis so it's 4.6" to the canister from the clevis bolt centerline and maintain stroke while lessening droop by 50mm, which he thought was alright.
I transposed an internal droop limiter number for actual damper dimensions. With the shorter front, you would have 10mm less droop, and gain 10mm in bump travel, stroke will remain the same @ 118mm. This should work if the additional length of the clevis will clear your sway bar. I saw your e-mail this am and will get back to you today.
Thanks for the clarification, those numbers make more sense. You're saying basically that total shock travel is unchanged but the shock internals will move 10mm compared to your normal clevis? But do you mean 10mm more droop and 10mm less bump travel? It seems like the shock body would move upwards to accomodate a longer clevis, lowering bump travel and raising droop if ride height is maintained...but I could be thinking about this backwards or misunderstanding...

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No, you will loos 10mm of droop and gain 10mm of bump....the stroke remains the same.
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 05:12 PM
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Win win right there.
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Beau@Performance Shock, Inc.
Originally Posted by IntegraR0064' timestamp='1358547071' post='22276626
[quote name='Beau@Performance Shock, Inc.' timestamp='1358530143' post='22275876']
[quote name='IntegraR0064' timestamp='1358397168' post='22272454']
Beau finally got back to me, he apparently had the flu.

He said he could extend the clevis so it's 4.6" to the canister from the clevis bolt centerline and maintain stroke while lessening droop by 50mm, which he thought was alright.
I transposed an internal droop limiter number for actual damper dimensions. With the shorter front, you would have 10mm less droop, and gain 10mm in bump travel, stroke will remain the same @ 118mm. This should work if the additional length of the clevis will clear your sway bar. I saw your e-mail this am and will get back to you today.
Thanks for the clarification, those numbers make more sense. You're saying basically that total shock travel is unchanged but the shock internals will move 10mm compared to your normal clevis? But do you mean 10mm more droop and 10mm less bump travel? It seems like the shock body would move upwards to accomodate a longer clevis, lowering bump travel and raising droop if ride height is maintained...but I could be thinking about this backwards or misunderstanding...

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No, you will loos 10mm of droop and gain 10mm of bump....the stroke remains the same.
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Out of curiosity, would the extended clevis be an additional cost option or just something to specify when ordering? I've been interested in an Ankeny bar for a while and weighing the damper options.
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by poorb0yw
Originally Posted by Beau@Performance Shock, Inc.' timestamp='1358548872' post='22276688
[quote name='IntegraR0064' timestamp='1358547071' post='22276626']
[quote name='Beau@Performance Shock, Inc.' timestamp='1358530143' post='22275876']
[quote name='IntegraR0064' timestamp='1358397168' post='22272454']
Beau finally got back to me, he apparently had the flu.

He said he could extend the clevis so it's 4.6" to the canister from the clevis bolt centerline and maintain stroke while lessening droop by 50mm, which he thought was alright.
I transposed an internal droop limiter number for actual damper dimensions. With the shorter front, you would have 10mm less droop, and gain 10mm in bump travel, stroke will remain the same @ 118mm. This should work if the additional length of the clevis will clear your sway bar. I saw your e-mail this am and will get back to you today.
Thanks for the clarification, those numbers make more sense. You're saying basically that total shock travel is unchanged but the shock internals will move 10mm compared to your normal clevis? But do you mean 10mm more droop and 10mm less bump travel? It seems like the shock body would move upwards to accomodate a longer clevis, lowering bump travel and raising droop if ride height is maintained...but I could be thinking about this backwards or misunderstanding...

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No, you will loos 10mm of droop and gain 10mm of bump....the stroke remains the same.
[/quote]

Out of curiosity, would the extended clevis be an additional cost option or just something to specify when ordering? I've been interested in an Ankeny bar for a while and weighing the damper options.
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He told me it would be an extra $200 for the extended clevis..so not bad, but it is an extra cost. I assumed that meant $100 per clevis, $200 total, as opposed to $200 per clevis, but verify with him. As I said I'm not sure it will fix the issue, it'll be close, so you'll have to measure for yourself.

The other option is you could rework the bar to angle the bar less outwards, that would work for sure. I'm not sure if Guy would be open to making a special one that angled in more right from the get-go.

FYI I ultimately decided not to get the ohlins and I just bought a new set of Penske 8300s.
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 12:12 PM
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Great thread this, hats off to the main contributors!

I have some questions.

Im currently looking at some of these for my race car.

I have a Saner front bar and wondering if im likely to have any issues with clearance?

Also, as im in the UK id have to order them from Ohlins UK. If i just order a set of TTX for the S2000 im likely to run into the issues Macr had early on.

What fitments do I need to order? I can spec spring rates etc so no issues there, its just the damper type and size.
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 12:49 PM
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I would call Beau and ask him what's up with Ohlins Uk because PSI is who designed and had the clevis mount manufactured, they're also the ones that shortened the rears.
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 01:02 PM
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Ok will do.

Any thoughts on the Saner bar?
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by IntegraR0064
He told me it would be an extra $200 for the extended clevis..so not bad, but it is an extra cost. I assumed that meant $100 per clevis, $200 total, as opposed to $200 per clevis, but verify with him. As I said I'm not sure it will fix the issue, it'll be close, so you'll have to measure for yourself.

The other option is you could rework the bar to angle the bar less outwards, that would work for sure. I'm not sure if Guy would be open to making a special one that angled in more right from the get-go.

FYI I ultimately decided not to get the ohlins and I just bought a new set of Penske 8300s.
Great, thanks for that info. Doesn't seem too bad if its $200 total.

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