Calling all ARE Dry Sump Owners
#11
I know. I've sent him an e-mail regarding all that he had to do to get the F20C to fit in his chassis. One solution by WCM Ultralite is to tilt the motor up to 60 degrees off vertical to get it in, which obviously causes some serious oil starvation issues, even with a dry sump.
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Most of us are using a baffled pan or nothing mainly due to the problems you've outlined. I'm sure there are a few of them out there but not many. You'll need to retro fit a smaller diameter flywheel and clutch, you may need to have it custom made. The bellhousing can then be easily cut clean at the bottom and replaced with a plate as you've described.
As you've alluded to, a dry sump is not an easy or even useful retrofit requiring a change in the flywheel, clutch, bellhousing, engine mounts and header. It would be great to lower the engine 3" in the chassis but it's way way down the list for pretty much everyone with a S2000. It's the sort of mod done by engine swappers rather than those with S2000s.
As you've alluded to, a dry sump is not an easy or even useful retrofit requiring a change in the flywheel, clutch, bellhousing, engine mounts and header. It would be great to lower the engine 3" in the chassis but it's way way down the list for pretty much everyone with a S2000. It's the sort of mod done by engine swappers rather than those with S2000s.
#13
Originally Posted by cthree,Sep 30 2007, 07:47 PM
Most of us are using a baffled pan or nothing mainly due to the problems you've outlined. I'm sure there are a few of them out there but not many. You'll need to retro fit a smaller diameter flywheel and clutch, you may need to have it custom made. The bellhousing can then be easily cut clean at the bottom and replaced with a plate as you've described.
As you've alluded to, a dry sump is not an easy or even useful retrofit requiring a change in the flywheel, clutch, bellhousing, engine mounts and header. It would be great to lower the engine 3" in the chassis but it's way way down the list for pretty much everyone with a S2000. It's the sort of mod done by engine swappers rather than those with S2000s.
As you've alluded to, a dry sump is not an easy or even useful retrofit requiring a change in the flywheel, clutch, bellhousing, engine mounts and header. It would be great to lower the engine 3" in the chassis but it's way way down the list for pretty much everyone with a S2000. It's the sort of mod done by engine swappers rather than those with S2000s.
#14
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Yeah, that's what I understood and I was including you in that swapper category (rightly or not I can't say). The gist of what I'm saying is that a dry sump isn't a practical option for those using F2XC engines in an S2000. You may find more help in the Lotus/lightweight forums rather than the S2000 forum. Just trying to point you in a direction which will get you closer to where you are going.
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I'll try to give them a call for ya since they are like 10 minutes away from me. I dont really see the issue of fabbing up a flywheel plate and just bolting it up to the housing. How much room do you have from the bellhousing to the ground?
I have a bastard swap also (see my sig) and I was looking into this pan since I have 4" of clearance from the bottom of the pan to the ground. I never really checked the bellhousing since the pan is the lowest point on the engine.
PM me and I'll try to call them in the morning.
Cheers
I have a bastard swap also (see my sig) and I was looking into this pan since I have 4" of clearance from the bottom of the pan to the ground. I never really checked the bellhousing since the pan is the lowest point on the engine.
PM me and I'll try to call them in the morning.
Cheers
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Better off buying the dry sump kit from Race Engine Design in the Uk
Thats who I brought mine from for my S2000 powered Fraser ( Lotus 7 ) .
Very nice kit
http://raceenginedesign.biz/honda.htm
Thats who I brought mine from for my S2000 powered Fraser ( Lotus 7 ) .
Very nice kit
http://raceenginedesign.biz/honda.htm
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Originally Posted by kiwi,Jan 2 2008, 04:17 AM
Better off buying the dry sump kit from Race Engine Design in the Uk
Thats who I brought mine from for my S2000 powered Fraser ( Lotus 7 ) .
Very nice kit
http://raceenginedesign.biz/honda.htm
Thats who I brought mine from for my S2000 powered Fraser ( Lotus 7 ) .
Very nice kit
http://raceenginedesign.biz/honda.htm
#18
Ended up returning the ARE kit and just finished putting hte RED kit on my motor. Don't even bother with anything else. The RED one is a superior design and held to tighter tolerances. It came out to $2500USD or so at the current exchange rate. A picture thread will be up soon!