Car running lean on racetrack
#1
Car running lean on racetrack
So I just finished my supercharger setup on my AP2(04) racecar and everything came out great. Got the car tuned safely and all the A/F ratios were safe. I was trying to keep the hp moderate for reliability issues. I am running a front mount intercooler on a CT engineering kit with a novi 1200 blower. In addition I am running a 19 row mishimoto oil cooler kit and 10w 30 synthetic oil. I installed a A/F ratio gauge and a boost gauge to be able to monitor the car while I was on track. Couple things I may add. I am not running baffles on the oil pan, and not running a oil catch can. All things I was planning on doing. So here I am on track on the outlap I was just babying it just to get a feel of the car for the first time this season. Now I am on the second lap and now I am starting to push the car come off the straight at about 137 mph into a hard braking zone into the uphill right hander(turn 1) continue into turn 2 and 3 still no problems. Here is where the problems begin exiting a quick hard right onto a quick left which is turn 4, I notice the car lean out as my gauge started blinking red I noticed the car bog out till I coasted and the car settled than the power came on and I kept going. Very retartedly I continued to push the car over 5 through 6 and at speed through the straight and into another big braking zone onto a left hander which is turn 7 I noticed again while exiting 7 the car leaned out and lost power again. So I started noticing a pattern that only while exiting turn 4 and 7 the car leaned out and bog down. The only similarities between these two corners are that I am in 4th gear just about to into my vtec point which was set lower to about 4k rpms. The fuel was above a half tank. I must add I have a larger fuel pump and 1000cc injectors so I ruled fuel out of the equation. My next thought was oil. At the point that i would enter 4 and 7 the car was going through some tough g forces. Turn 4 was lateral g's and 7 was through a hard left hander. My thoughts were that the oil cooler was causing this problem. At the point that I slammed on the brakes or turn hard the oil flys to the oil cooler as the rpm were low, while exiting turn 4 and 7 I get back to full throttle causing my oil pump to work harder but now the oil has a longer travel as some of it remains in the cooler so It leans me out because the car doesn't see the proper oil pressure causing this bogging condition. I may sound crazy but this is all I can come up with. I attached a picture of the track with the turn numbers. I would appreciate some feedback thanks a lot.... I might add that i have about 5 3/4 quarts of oil in the car. The oil was a little over the hashtags on the dipstick after it passed through the cooler and supercharger which utilizes a return system.
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#2
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You need a surge tank for your fuel. I have the same setup and on hard left hand turns or sustained left, I get fuel starve. I just bought a full blown surge tank to fix this issue. With supercharger and bigger injectors, you need constant flow of fuel.
#3
^^ This +1. Full Blown surge tank FTW. Stock tank fuel pick up is on the left. Stock swirl pot is weak. Throw right and throw left and no fuel left by pickup.
#4
I agree 100% but i did not do much to the handling since last year and last year i did not have this fuel Starvation problem only Difference is that i wasnt supercharged and had stock fueling . Anyways any particular brand or even from where I can order this up? I am trying to Order this week and install ASAP I have a big Race at road Atlanta in 2 weeks . Thanks for the replies.
#5
Registered User
http://fullblownmotorsports.com/shop...uel-surge-tank
This is the one I bought. Comes plug and play.
This is the one I bought. Comes plug and play.
#6
Either make your own or buy a the FBM kit.
I can help you with fitting P/N's if you choose to custom build.
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/911...el-surge-tank/
I can help you with fitting P/N's if you choose to custom build.
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/911...el-surge-tank/
#7
I agree 100% but i did not do much to the handling since last year and last year i did not have this fuel Starvation problem only Difference is that i wasnt supercharged and had stock fueling . Anyways any particular brand or even from where I can order this up? I am trying to Order this week and install ASAP I have a big Race at road Atlanta in 2 weeks . Thanks for the replies.
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Either make your own or buy a the FBM kit.
I can help you with fitting P/N's if you choose to custom build.
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/911...el-surge-tank/
I can help you with fitting P/N's if you choose to custom build.
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/911...el-surge-tank/
Thanks alot man. I'm gonna try and order this up tomorrow .