Don't forget rear wheel lift when you're adjusting your suspension. You may get a more balanced car by stiffining up the rear but if it's too stiff you'll loose drive out of the corner. It's more of a problem with r-compound tires and it's why many road racers run with a stiff front and no rear bar. Have your buddies keep an eye on your rear wheels when you run the cones.

 

I'm not saying this is you but I've noticed that sometimes people try to dive in too
deep creating a bad situation for this car. I'm not sure how true this is but I've
noticed that this car doesn't really like that style of driving and instead benefits
from being on the gas to create balance or composure.
Unlike most rear wheel drive cars I've driven in the past this car seems to get
loose in that situation where other cars don't.
Just a thought as I'm still learning.

 

Let me know how that rear bar helps out and what parts you end up with.

 

I agree, the handling changes dramatically depending on throttle application compared to the other cars I have driven.

 

How much have you played with the KW adjustments? That's a free option that may make the right difference for you.

 

Driving style (how abrupt or smooth on steering, brakes, throttle) makes a big difference in how this car handles. It responds well to trail braking in slow speed corners and maintenance throttle in high speed corners.

Many times the handling problem is caused by the control actuator.

 

First off, what are your dampers set at?

What HOT tire pressures are you running?

If the front bar on full stiff (no rear bar) made the car understeer too much, what about the front bar full stiff and the stock rear bar on?

If you are going up in spring rate, get the 571lb (~10.3Kg) Clubsport rates, the ~50lb difference to the 515lb won't be that noticeable. I don't think -2.7* of rear camber would be too much. Anything under -3* seems to be okay for the street.

 

[QUOTE=Billj747,Oct 10 2009, 10:23 PM] First off, what are your dampers set at?

What HOT tire pressures are you running?

If the front bar on full stiff (no rear bar) made the car understeer too much, what about the front bar full stiff and the stock rear bar on?

If you are going up in spring rate, get the 571lb (~10.3Kg) Clubsport rates, the ~50lb difference to the 515lb won't be that noticeable.

 

"--So far I have tried the front bar full stiff and I am getting inlift with the rear bar connected. (oversteer)

--I tried full soft on the front bar and the rear disconnected and it understeered badly."

Where was the oversteer when you had the front bar full stiff with rear bar connected? Entry/mid/ exit? Were you trailbraking, on the gas, etc...?

Where was the understeer when you had the front bar full soft with rear bar disconnected?

50lbs isn't worth it and won't be that noticeable.

 

All the issues are mainly during mid corner while on the gas but not to unsettle the car. I can't roll on the gas near as quick as when I have the rear bar disconnected.