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Old 04-29-2018, 05:23 PM
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Preorders for the first batch are now up for sale:

https://baero.tech/shop/preorder-end...r-gtc-200-wing
Old 05-04-2018, 10:51 AM
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Now that you've got the flat end plates mastered, what about bent end plates? I know there was discussion that they could not curve outward like the new 737 because it would widen the wing. What about curving the bottom inward? It looks like Lamborghini sees an improvement in this feature.
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Why not make a cold air intake for forced induction S2000s? Every car with a turbo seems to have a huge K&N filter sitting behind the radiator...which is really behind the intercooler, A/C, oil cooler, and radiator. That air can't be cool. Supra's often take out the right side headlight for cold air.

It is a tight fit in the S2000. Virtually all supercharged ones have a centrifugal compressor sitting n front of the engine. Some of the turbocharged ones have the turbo in front of the engine. But even those with the turbo along side the engine have the air filter behind the radiator.

It gets even trickier. Many of these cars see track days or even competition. Those cars will virtually all have brake cooling ducts (you made ducts also) using the front panels. In all cases it has to be able to handle rainy and snowy days without water getting in the engine.

This isn't a simple problem. It probably will need a top piece in the hood and a bottom piece that that contains the air filter. Fortunately the silicon ducting often used to the compressor inlet offers lots of configuration options.

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Originally Posted by will010100
Now that you've got the flat end plates mastered, what about bent end plates? I know there was discussion that they could not curve outward like the new 737 because it would widen the wing. What about curving the bottom inward? It looks like Lamborghini sees an improvement in this feature.
Interesting idea. I'll check if it's legal then take a look.
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Originally Posted by DavidNJ
Why not make a cold air intake for forced induction S2000s? Every car with a turbo seems to have a huge K&N filter sitting behind the radiator...which is really behind the intercooler, A/C, oil cooler, and radiator. That air can't be cool. Supra's often take out the right side headlight for cold air.

It is a tight fit in the S2000. Virtually all supercharged ones have a centrifugal compressor sitting n front of the engine. Some of the turbocharged ones have the turbo in front of the engine. But even those with the turbo along side the engine have the air filter behind the radiator.

It gets even trickier. Many of these cars see track days or even competition. Those cars will virtually all have brake cooling ducts (you made ducts also) using the front panels. In all cases it has to be able to handle rainy and snowy days without water getting in the engine.

This isn't a simple problem. It probably will need a top piece in the hood and a bottom piece that that contains the air filter. Fortunately the silicon ducting often used to the compressor inlet offers lots of configuration options.

I mainly start with stuff I really want for my car, then I make them available for everyone else. Since I will be NA forever I don't see myself ever needing this. I do make custom stuff so whoever did want it I can take a look for them.

I honestly have never seen a FI S2000 at the track yet.
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This video discusses the aerodynamics of the vertical slats on the bottom of wing endplates, using the 2019 F1 Ferrari as the example.

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Originally Posted by DavidNJ
Why not make a cold air intake for forced induction S2000s? Every car with a turbo seems to have a huge K&N filter sitting behind the radiator...which is really behind the intercooler, A/C, oil cooler, and radiator. That air can't be cool. Supra's often take out the right side headlight for cold air.

It is a tight fit in the S2000. Virtually all supercharged ones have a centrifugal compressor sitting n front of the engine. Some of the turbocharged ones have the turbo in front of the engine. But even those with the turbo along side the engine have the air filter behind the radiator.

It gets even trickier. Many of these cars see track days or even competition. Those cars will virtually all have brake cooling ducts (you made ducts also) using the front panels. In all cases it has to be able to handle rainy and snowy days without water getting in the engine.

This isn't a simple problem. It probably will need a top piece in the hood and a bottom piece that that contains the air filter. Fortunately the silicon ducting often used to the compressor inlet offers lots of configuration options.
FYI. Some air temp measurements off heat exchangers:
https://motoiq.com/project-s2000-par...ers-and-vents/

Hood NACA duct which could be used to provide cold air to a turbo inlet:
https://motoiq.com/project-s2000-par...t-air-testing/

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Originally Posted by spdracerut
FYI. Some air temp measurements off heat exchangers:
https://motoiq.com/project-s2000-par...ers-and-vents/

Hood NACA duct which could be used to provide cold air to a turbo inlet:
https://motoiq.com/project-s2000-par...t-air-testing/
MrSideways, when he wasn't winning the STR championship, built this radiator with an air inlet to the side. He has the oil cooler using the ducts on the side.




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Originally Posted by DavidNJ
This video discusses the aerodynamics of the vertical slats on the bottom of wing endplates, using the 2019 F1 Ferrari as the example.

https://youtu.be/DNROTNOg558?t=398
I tried these, they're not very beneficial to a single element. F1 cars are outwashing, whereas GT cars are mostly inwashing so they're a whole different animal.
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Originally Posted by roel03
I tried these, they're not very beneficial to a single element. F1 cars are outwashing, whereas GT cars are mostly inwashing so they're a whole different animal.
Not sure I understand how inwash and outwash apply to rear wings. On the front wing it is whether the flow is directed between the wheel and the body or outside the wheel. On a rear wing? In the video, Scarborough was indicating they are used to increase the flow under the wing increasing its downforce.




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